Jenksismyhero Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 06:56 PM) It doesn't need to be deep or existential but it isn't a lot to ask that there at least be a not utterly ridiculous plot, characters with any depth whatsoever (or that at least are somewhat likable or hateable), and humor that wasn't apparently written by an 8 year old. Not to mention how about not creating two characters that make Jar Jar Binks look like a cinematic masterpiece. The 2nd Transformers was complete garbage and while taste in movies are subjective I can't fathom how anyone over 12 can like that movie. There is nothing snobby about ripping on piece of s*** movies. He shouldn't dumb himself down just because the public makes something popular. But the premise of the movie (robots that turn into a variety of machines) is absolutely ridiculous, so why does it have to be some structured, well designed plot? What more do you want from these movies unless you're trying to make it into a film and not just entertainment. I mean I get what you're saying. We all want the Last Crusade, not the Temple of Doom. But Ebert's just annoying with his reviews of most movies, and especially with any sort of action flick that doesn't meet some ridiculous level of expectation he's got. And then he's all smarmy about it. Re: comic book movies, my problem is they're just lazy, which is a problem I've had with Hollywood for a while. I want something new and unique. At least the two new batman movies, especially the 2nd, went for something totally different (like Ledger's Joker character). Do we really need 18 spiderman movies? Do we need the Green Lantern? Thor? Captain America? The Avengers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 09:53 AM) But the premise of the movie (robots that turn into a variety of machines) is absolutely ridiculous, so why does it have to be some structured, well designed plot? Just think "District 9" for an outlandish sci-fi premise that turned out to be an excellent film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 09:55 AM) Just think "District 9" for an outlandish sci-fi premise that turned out to be an excellent film. True, I did enjoy that. And it was an original idea (at least to me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 09:55 AM) Just think "District 9" for an outlandish sci-fi premise that turned out to be an excellent film. That was a great movie. Much better than I expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 11:00 AM) That was a great movie. Much better than I expected. And it didn't have to resort to the lowest common denominator tactics that Bay uses in all of his garbage films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 29, 2011 Author Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 09:55 AM) Just think "District 9" for an outlandish sci-fi premise that turned out to be an excellent film. there are plenty of movies on this thread that people have proclaimed to be great, foreign and domestic, and if you like them and i dont, thats fine. i wont tell you that synedoche, new york and doubt bored the s*** out of me immediately after you(and im not saying you, marko, im being general) proclaimed the movie to be great. thats just how i am, i dont want to rain on your parade right then. if i am asked i will tell you i do or do not like it. i know t3 is lowbrow, i know it isnt going to have a plot, i knew ebert would s*** on it. after i say i am going to see a movie, the bad reviews dont have to be thrown at me in an attempt to embarrass me for wanting to see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 11:06 AM) there are plenty of movies on this thread that people have proclaimed to be great, foreign and domestic, and if you like them and i dont, thats fine. i wont tell you that synedoche, new york and doubt bored the s*** out of me immediately after you(and im not saying you, marko, im being general) proclaimed the movie to be great. thats just how i am, i dont want to rain on your parade right then. if i am asked i will tell you i do or do not like it. i know t3 is lowbrow, i know it isnt going to have a plot, i knew ebert would s*** on it. after i say i am going to see a movie, the bad reviews dont have to be thrown at me in an attempt to embarrass me for wanting to see it I'm completely cool with all of this. But as a fan of the Transformers from when I was a kid, I would have loved to have seen this series get produced and directed my some competent people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 29, 2011 Author Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 11:08 AM) I'm completely cool with all of this. But as a fan of the Transformers from when I was a kid, I would have loved to have seen this series get produced and directed my some competent people. i agree, and I wish it could be a better story but it is what it is. At least the general feeling from the reviews i am reading is that the action is much easier to follow and the 3D is well done, which was both really bad in the 2nd movie. I dont think we have to worry much, im pretty sure Bay is done being raked over the coals for this franchise. A reboot will come out within 5 years. In other dorky childhood news, the Masters of the Universe script is being finalized..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Timely post on grantland about Bay: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/670664...nse-michael-bay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 11:08 AM) I'm completely cool with all of this. But as a fan of the Transformers from when I was a kid, I would have loved to have seen this series get produced and directed my some competent people. Speaking of competent film makers, did you see Sam Raimi is directing a prequel to The Wizard of Oz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 11:42 AM) Speaking of competent film makers, did you see Sam Raimi is directing a prequel to The Wizard of Oz? No but you've peaked my interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 12:42 PM) Speaking of competent film makers, did you see Sam Raimi is directing a prequel to The Wizard of Oz? How the heck is he going to fit Bruce Campbell into that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 11:42 AM) Speaking of competent film makers, did you see Sam Raimi is directing a prequel to The Wizard of Oz? I wonder if does it like a horror movie. That would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 11:42 AM) Speaking of competent film makers, did you see Sam Raimi is directing a prequel to The Wizard of Oz? You mean Wicked, or something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 11:51 AM) You mean Wicked, or something else? It's called Oz: The Great and Powerful. It's about how the Wizard arrived in Oz and became the ruler. James Franco plays Oz, and Mila Kunis is in it too, so that's a bonus. Edited June 29, 2011 by pittshoganerkoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 12:06 PM) It's called Oz: The Great and Powerful. It's about how the Wizard arrived in Oz and became the ruler. James Franco plays Oz, and Mila Kunis is in it too, so that's a bonus. So a completely different angle. Wow. After seeing Wicked, I will see this for sure. The writing in that show was brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Could Moviepass Get Us Back In Movie Theaters? MoviePass, the experimental $50-per-month subscription to unlimited movies in theaters which uses your phone as a ticket, goes live in a very limited beta for the San Francisco area today. Hoping that movie buffs will jump at the chance to save cash at the box office (where tickets climbed to a record $7.89 this year) and seek the convenience of bypassing the torture of waiting in a line and the "hassle" of printing your own ticket. The Netflix-like service subscription will let subscribers search for a film, select a local show time, check in to the theater and then head straight to the ticket-taker. At $50 per month, users only get one admission per day and can expect a $3 surcharge for 3D or IMAX screenings. With a goal of reaching 40 percent of theaters when it launches nationally, the program will try and reach the hardcore movie fans which make up the roughly 10 percent of the U.S. population which attends movie screenings at least weekly. The big question is whether there are enough good movies over the course of the month to even get you out to take advantage of this service. In the mid-1940s, when cinema attendance was at its peak (and around 60 percent of the U.S. population went to the movies every week), the studios were putting out over 280 movies per year. Today it is about half that. The good news is that in addition to the AMC multiplexes, the San Francisco trial also has the local Landmark theaters' more arthouse fare as well, so that Trollhunter, 13 Assassins and Bill Cunningham New York are on tap for today's beta subscribers in addition to your Pirates of the Caribbean and Transformers franchises. While this bodes well for offering a decent selection of eligible titles, we're not convinced its going to lure the masses already paying for cable and potentially a DVD/streaming subscription service like Netflix to plunk down an additional chunk of change every month. In Chicago, we would also want the flexibility to diversify our cinematic diet with the offerings of local independent and academic institutions, from the Gene Siskel Film Center to the Portage Theater, which are unlikely to be included in this sort of scheme. We also predict convenience of skipping lines and ticket-printing will be substantially mitigated if we want to bring someone along who isn't a subscriber. This service looks good for the studios (who rake in up to a 90% share of the ticket prices on new releases), the theaters who will still be pushing the concessions, and movie junkies like us, who spend so much time in dark theaters that we look like medical textbook illustrations for vitamin D deficiency, but we seriously doubt it will do anything to reverse the long, slowly downward-inching flat-line of movie attendance. The company is planning to launch nationwide in the fall, and we predict that by then they will offer some of the tiered plans at lower prices which they currently allude to rather vaguely. via Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 01:45 PM) via Not a bad idea. To make it worth your while, you'd have to hit 5 or 6 movies a month, right? Back before we had kids, we'd see one or two movies a weekend, so it would have been good back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 So, 60+ movies a year you'd HAVE to see in the theaters to make that worth it. I think on average I go see about 5 a year. A lot of that has to do with it not being worth the cost, but it's also because most movies aren't worth seeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 01:45 PM) via There's not enough good flicks released in a year to warrant $600. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 29, 2011 Author Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 04:57 PM) There's not enough good flicks released in a year to warrant $600. you and your wife go to movies pretty frequently though. how many would you think you average per month? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 It's nice that most theaters around me are $5-7 a ticket still. I can also get into second run movies for like $1.50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 04:57 PM) There's not enough good flicks released in a year to warrant $600. Definitely not. I go to about 2-3 movies a year, and usually 1 or 2 of those are at the drive-in (2 movies for $8 total and I can bring outside food? Umm...yes please). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Transformers was absolutely awful, and its f***ing 3 hours long as well.. I wanted to transform into a gun and kill myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 QUOTE (T R U @ Jun 30, 2011 -> 04:43 AM) Transformers was absolutely awful, and its f***ing 3 hours long as well.. I wanted to transform into a gun and kill myself You should write movie reviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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