Milkman delivers Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ May 24, 2011 -> 09:31 AM) To me he is the opposite of Jose Bautista who re-invented his swing and is a god now (maybe there are other factors, too, but whatever). Meanwhile Dunn has a horrible swing mechanically that is prevented him from making consistent contract. He just doesn't even look like he has a chance when he goes to the plate. That never, ever happens on the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ May 24, 2011 -> 10:43 AM) That never, ever happens on the Sox. Yeah, we should definitely never fire Greg Walker or anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 He's on pace for 16 homers! ...and 250 ks! That bad. That real bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 24, 2011 -> 10:58 AM) He's on pace for 16 homers! ...and 250 ks! That bad. That real bad. Wow. Kotsay would be an upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 24, 2011 -> 10:54 AM) Yeah, we should definitely never fire Greg Walker or anyone. But you forget, he doesn't have any effect on established veterans because they are already set in their ways/swings. He only helps the young guys. You know, all of those young stud hitters we routinely produce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 7, 2011 -> 12:57 PM) My realistic expectations are 80 HR's and 2.000 OPS. 50 WAR, minium. And I was just wondering where to go for lunch I still stick by my predictions. And I still might go to Portillo's for lunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 24, 2011 -> 10:58 AM) Wow. Kotsay would be an upgrade. Remember all of the talk about how we'll automatically be better just by replacing Kotsay with Dunn? Who would have ever thought that that wouldn't be true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ May 24, 2011 -> 11:00 AM) Remember all of the talk about how we'll automatically be better just by replacing Kotsay with Dunn? Who would have ever thought that that wouldn't be true? Yeah no kidding. At least move him down to the 5 or 6 hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ May 24, 2011 -> 10:43 AM) That never, ever happens on the Sox. I just realized how many grammatical errors were made in my last post. That was uglier than Dunn's swing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 24, 2011 -> 11:02 AM) Yeah no kidding. At least move him down to the 5 or 6 hole. I just want to clarify to people that I wasn't being sarcastic. Who would have ever thought that Kotsay would be a better option almost two full months into the season? Is Ozzie Guillen a genius? (That part was sarcasm) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ May 24, 2011 -> 11:02 AM) I just realized how many grammatical errors were made in my last post. That was uglier than Dunn's swing. I didn't want to say anything... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ May 24, 2011 -> 11:03 AM) I just want to clarify to people that I wasn't being sarcastic. Who would have ever thought that Kotsay would be a better option almost two full months into the season? Satan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clyons Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 (edited) My expectations for Dunn were large, but essentally consistent with his career numbers. I agree he looks to have added some pounds, but I am not ready to attribute his suckitude to being "fat and happy" with his contract. If anything, I suspect it might be the opposite, with him putting too much pressure on himself to justifty the contract, something the missed time due to injury may have only compounded. I keep thinking back to Albert Belle, who was the last huge bat the Sox acquired in free agency. He sucked relentlessly in his first half-season here, although so far Dunn has been even worse. Of course, Belle turned it around in the second half, and he went on to have one of the best offensive seasons in franchise history the next year. Dunn will hit here. I don't know whether he will hit enough or turn it around in time to help this team do anything this year, but I'm pretty confident that he will come close to his career averages once he finally relaxes and adjusts to a new team, new league, new position, etc. Granted, he's shown absolutely nothing to warrant this faith and I don't really know how his bat speed compares to before, but I have a hard time believing that his physical skills substantially deteriorated over the winter, or because of a few added pounds. Edited May 24, 2011 by PlaySumFnJurny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ May 24, 2011 -> 11:07 AM) My expectations for Dunn were large, but essentally consistent with his career numbers. I agree he looks to have added some pounds, but I am not ready to attribute his suckitude to being "fat and happy" with his contract. If anything, I suspect it might be the opposite, with him putting too much pressure on himself to justifty the contract, something the missed time due to injury may have only compounded. I keep thinking back to Albert Belle, who was the last huge bat the Sox acquired in free agency. He sucked relentlessly in his first half-season here, although so far Dunn has been even worse. Of course, Belle turned it around in the second half, and he went on to have one of the best offensive seasons in franchise history the next year. Dunn will hit here. I don't know whether he will hit enough or turn it around in time to help this team do anything this year, but I'm pretty confident that he will come close to his career averages once he finally relaxes and adjusts to a new team, new league, new position, etc. Granted, he's shown absolutely nothing to warrant this faith and I don't really know how his bat speed compares to before, but I have a hard time believing that his physical skills substantially deteriorated over the winter, or because of a few added pounds. Perhaps, like Belle, he'll have a huge year in his second season with the Sox. Unfortunately for us, that huge offensive year might come during a season where the Sox aren't even competing. Maybe Adam Dunn is an offensive version of Javier Vazquez. He could be just a born loser, a guy who can't cut it on a competitive team or with any expectations on his shoulders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 I dont think he looks any different than any other season. He just isnt making good contact. He is lunging out over the plate and jamming himself on inside pitches. And its clearly gotten to him, when he hit that RBI a few games ago he was joking about blacking out in the dugout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 24, 2011 -> 11:02 AM) Yeah no kidding. At least move him down to the 5 or 6 hole. Dunn hitting 5th tonight, Q up in the 3rd spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 24, 2011 -> 02:53 PM) Dunn hitting 5th tonight, Q up in the 3rd spot About f***ing time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 24, 2011 -> 03:54 PM) About f***ing time. Yeah. Our new #3 hitter is 6 for his last 36 with a .557 OPS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 24, 2011 -> 03:00 PM) Yeah. Our new #3 hitter is 6 for his last 36 with a .557 OPS. But actually has the ability to make contact with a pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 24, 2011 -> 04:02 PM) But actually has the ability to make contact with a pitch. Batting averages in May: Quentin: .190 Dunn: .214 OBP in May: Quentin: .278 Dunn: .330 OPS in May: Quentin: .659 Dunn: .741 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 24, 2011 -> 03:11 PM) Batting averages in May: Quentin: .190 Dunn: .214 OBP in May: Quentin: .278 Dunn: .330 OPS in May: Quentin: .659 Dunn: .741 Hilarity at it's finest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 If we went entirely on what are you doing in May, and assumed that Pierre was stuck in the 1 spot, you'd put Vizquel or Beckham in teh #3 spot, since they're at least hitting some. The next candidates based on OPS would be Adam Dunn and Brent Morel (who is hitting .300 in May). I only type that of course to once again illustrate here the absurdity of the fact that Brent Morel has 12 at bats in the team's last 12 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 I take it all back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 I'm not expecting anything from Dunn. I'm expecting Viciedo to be called up so we can have a damn bat in the lineup who can smash lefties and play some left field. I am not expecting my expectations to be met however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 I'm not expecting anything from Dunn. I'm expecting Viciedo to be called up so we can have a damn bat in the lineup who can smash lefties and play some left field. I am not expecting my expectations to be met however. CQ has sure made a great contribution tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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