iamshack Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 27, 2011 -> 10:14 PM) Analysis and thought is the opposite of a meatball. Drinking presumably good beer out of a fancy glass doesn't make you a meatball. You're just mad because your argument is about as good as someone saying the earth is 6000 years old. Here we go again. Enough with the insults. I'm not mad at all. It was a joke. The point still stands that the video pointed out nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Someone telling you your argument sucks (regardless of whether it's true or not) is not an insult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jan 27, 2011 -> 09:21 PM) Someone telling you your argument sucks (regardless of whether it's true or not) is not an insult. The distinction is just a way of insulting me to get around the rules. It's the same as saying your wife is "acting" like a b****. Gets the same point across while leaving an escape to back out of. "I didn't say you were a b****, honey, just that you were acting like one." It's semantics. For the 900th time, Cutler's doubters aren't insulting anyone else or their arguments. His supporters in this thread are being beyond defensive. Wonder why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 28, 2011 Author Share Posted January 28, 2011 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 27, 2011 -> 09:19 PM) Here we go again. Enough with the insults. I'm not mad at all. It was a joke. The point still stands that the video pointed out nothing. You just called the guy in the video a retard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 27, 2011 -> 09:27 PM) You just called the guy in the video a retard. Is he posting here? I will gladly apologize to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 28, 2011 Author Share Posted January 28, 2011 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 27, 2011 -> 09:26 PM) The distinction is just a way of insulting me to get around the rules. It's the same as saying your wife is "acting" like a b****. Gets the same point across while leaving an escape to back out of. "I didn't say you were a b****, honey, just that you were acting like one." It's semantics. For the 900th time, Cutler's doubters aren't insulting anyone else or their arguments. His supporters in this thread are being beyond defensive. Wonder why. QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 27, 2011 -> 09:28 PM) Is he posting here? I will gladly apologize to him. Use your own reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 27, 2011 -> 10:26 PM) The distinction is just a way of insulting me to get around the rules. It's the same as saying your wife is "acting" like a b****. Gets the same point across while leaving an escape to back out of. "I didn't say you were a b****, honey, just that you were acting like one." It's semantics. For the 900th time, Cutler's doubters aren't insulting anyone else or their arguments. His supporters in this thread are being beyond defensive. Wonder why. Not really. My point is that he is specifically talking about what you said and why he thinks it's invalid and you think it's a personal attack. I don't know why you think it's a personal attack but it's not. Calling someone's argument garbage is totally fair game. That is half the point of debating. Hell, you are doing it right now (what else is "His supporters in this thread are being beyond defensive" supposed to mean?) Edited January 28, 2011 by lostfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 27, 2011 -> 09:29 PM) Use your own reply. No, it's not. I did not respond to his post here. I was commenting on an outside source, and the manner in which he was holding a glass in a YouTube video. It's not even close to the same thing. Secondly, you are so obviously targeting me because you have nothing better to do. I don't bother with you or your posts, and yet you are obsessed with mine. It is obviously some personal mission of yours. Why don't you just let the other admins address any issues they might have with my interpretation of the rules and put your personal feelings aside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (lostfan @ Jan 27, 2011 -> 09:34 PM) Not really. My point is that he is specifically talking about what you said and why he thinks it's invalid and you think it's a personal attack. I don't know why you think it's a personal attack but it's not. Calling someone's argument garbage is totally fair game. That is half the point of debating. Hell, you are doing it right now. No, it simply isn't. The point of debating is to argue the issues and elements. Nothing is gained by stating "your argument sucks." And if that is perfectly acceptable, then wonderful. The level of discourse here will only improve if that becomes a widespread habit. Edited January 28, 2011 by iamshack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 28, 2011 Author Share Posted January 28, 2011 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 27, 2011 -> 09:34 PM) No, it's not. I did not respond to his post here. I was commenting on an outside source, and the manner in which he was holding a glass in a YouTube video. It's not even close to the same thing. Secondly, you are so obviously targeting me because you have nothing better to do. I don't bother with you or your posts, and yet you are obsessed with mine. It is obviously some personal mission of yours. Why don't you just let the other admins address any issues they might have with my interpretation of the rules and put your personal feelings aside. No, I replied because, again, you are in the middle of another argument. I said days ago that this is exactly what would happen, and lo and behold it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 28, 2011 Author Share Posted January 28, 2011 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 27, 2011 -> 09:37 PM) No, it simply isn't. The point of debating is to argue the issues and elements. Nothing is gained by stating "your argument sucks." And if that is perfectly acceptable, then wonderful. The level of discourse here will only improve if that becomes a widespread habit. So what level of discourse does calling a guy in a video a retard accomplish? Again, use your own standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 27, 2011 -> 09:38 PM) No, I replied because, again, you are in the middle of another argument. I said days ago that this is exactly what would happen, and lo and behold it did. And yet no one has gotten hurt or died. All the women and children are safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 27, 2011 -> 09:39 PM) So what level of discourse does calling a guy in a video a retard accomplish? Again, use your own standards. The discourse was in the body of the post. Perhaps you should read it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) 75 pages and about 30-40 of them are just filled with bulls*** and the wheels are spinning right now, so this time I'm making the call. Topic closed. Edited January 28, 2011 by lostfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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