RockRaines Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 The situation is a little different in that Tressel didn't commit the violations he lied about but i get your overall point. Like i said, the NCAA needs to set a standard of suspension for these situations and i think it begins and ends with a year term. If there is less gray area with the punishments i feel like the process with then be more black and white. As of now, there is a difference between penalties on a case by case basis which may not be the best way to ensure fairness across the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 10, 2011 -> 12:30 PM) The situation is a little different in that Tressel didn't commit the violations he lied about but i get your overall point. Like i said, the NCAA needs to set a standard of suspension for these situations and i think it begins and ends with a year term. If there is less gray area with the punishments i feel like the process with then be more black and white. As of now, there is a difference between penalties on a case by case basis which may not be the best way to ensure fairness across the board. Lying about it is just as bad, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 The problem is Tressel had information that he should not have had. If he reported it, it may have actually messed up a federal investigation and potentially cost the attorney who disclosed it his license. He should have never been put in the position, and once he was there he probably should have hired an attorney or at least disclosed it to a OSU attorney so that they could figure out how to handle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Mar 10, 2011 -> 02:34 PM) Lying about it is just as bad, imo. I assume lying about it IS the violation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 My guess is the violation is failure to report a violation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Mar 10, 2011 -> 03:06 PM) My guess is the violation is failure to report a violation. Yeah, it's referred to as a 10.1 violation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 10, 2011 -> 10:59 AM) It would be much deserved IMO if the NCAA expands the suspension to the entire season and sets a precedent on that term of punishment for coaches who withhold information. AS of right now, the swift punishment that OSU imposed on him was probably based on the weak punishments given out in prior cases to coaches. Mark Emmert and the NCAA have had several cases over the past year or so where their sanctions were questionable at best: Cam Newton, Bruce Pearl, Lane Kiffin, now OSU and Oregon. They need to set a precedent and follow it regardless of the specifics ie: the size of the school. If they suspended Tressel for the entire season, that'd be a more than fair punishment IMO. I honestly am not even looking for that much, just more than 2 games against MAC teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Mar 10, 2011 -> 09:42 PM) If they suspended Tressel for the entire season, that'd be a more than fair punishment IMO. I honestly am not even looking for that much, just more than 2 games against MAC teams. It should be longer than the suspension the players received. It makes little sense its not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 I miss college football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 11, 2011 -> 07:04 AM) It should be longer than the suspension the players received. It makes little sense its not. I agree. I was thinking 6 to 9 games seems about right. The entire season would be quite sufficient IMO since he wasn't fired. QUOTE (Heads22 @ Mar 11, 2011 -> 05:42 PM) I miss college football. Me too. And i'm beyond thankful to know their games will be played this fall. Edited March 12, 2011 by whitesoxfan101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 SO Notre Dame is found responsible for th death of the kid that fell from the lift taping the practices. Shouldnt the coaching staff who put him up there be punished as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 15, 2011 -> 01:49 PM) SO Notre Dame is found responsible for th death of the kid that fell from the lift taping the practices. Shouldnt the coaching staff who put him up there be punished as well? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Why should they be punished, the weather was unremarkable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Mar 15, 2011 -> 05:35 PM) Why should they be punished, the weather was unremarkable... Is this a serious post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Not in the least. I'm mocking Swarbrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Absolutely. Punishment should fall upon the student's supervisor, head coach and director of operations, as well as any athletics administration that was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Tressel suspended for the first 5 games now. I guess today is a good day to come out with it and let it be overlooked. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6230308 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 QUOTE (zenryan @ Mar 17, 2011 -> 09:19 PM) Tressel suspended for the first 5 games now. I guess today is a good day to come out with it and let it be overlooked. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6230308 Voluntarily. I would think they would actually like that to be in the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clyons Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 17, 2011 -> 09:30 PM) Voluntarily. I would think they would actually like that to be in the news. Then they need new PR and SI people. Ones who know better than to break this on an absolutely HUGE sports day that also coincides with a drunk fest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 QUOTE (zenryan @ Mar 17, 2011 -> 09:19 PM) Tressel suspended for the first 5 games now. I guess today is a good day to come out with it and let it be overlooked. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6230308 The Friday news dump multiplier effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 17, 2011 -> 09:30 PM) Voluntarily. I would think they would actually like that to be in the news. You want it in the news but you don't want it to be a top story. The more people talk about Tressel committing violations, the worse it is for OSU, no matter what the reason is. Releasing it during the NCAA tourney gets it in the news, but lets it quickly slip onto the back page. That way, you can start getting back to talking football, and not violations. It's a good thing that Tressel "voluntarily" took the extra 3 games, but you don't want his breaking of the rules in the 1st place to stay all over the headlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 17, 2011 -> 09:30 PM) Voluntarily. I would think they would actually like that to be in the news. Voluntarily, as in hoping that will satisfy everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clyons Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Michael Floyd arrested for driving while blind. http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2011/...dui-charge.html He should have stuck to pot like Kyle McAlarney and Mike Ragone. The domers don't seem to mind that too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Yeah, that or rape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotop Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Mar 21, 2011 -> 01:54 PM) Michael Floyd arrested for driving while blind. http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2011/...dui-charge.html He should have stuck to pot like Kyle McAlarney and Mike Ragone. The domers don't seem to mind that too much. Yeah, because McAlarney missing as season of basketball and getting tossed out of school for a semester wasn't a harsh punishment in the first place. Please. If this happened at any other school, let's say a Florida for example, Floyd would probably miss a game against Coastal Carolina. Whereas, I'll be shocked if he gets to see the field this year. Rashon Powers Neal got a DUI a few years back and was gone for the season so there's precedent. Now I will say Kelly's regime may have a different disciplinary style, but like I said the precedent is there and the powers that be at the school on the adminstration side remain the same. /selfishly hoping Floyd survives this and gets to play at some point this year /whoops schedule is frontloaded, oh crap, nd is screwed because there's no way he doesn't miss the start of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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