Kenny Hates Prospects Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 The time to trade Danks was this offseason. The Sox really want (and need) to win this year, so you have to imagine they want him pretty bad. Peter Gammons said the Rangers tried to acquire Robinson Chirinos from the Cubs. They would have then sent Chirinos, Derek Holland, Engel Beltre, and Frank Francisco for Matt Garza. Considering Danks is actually quite a bit better than Matt Garza, and also probably a better extension candidate for Texas given his family is there, imagine what Kenny would have had to turn down if the Rangers made an offer. We could have gotten a massive haul. The deadline deals don't happen this year unless we're picking up improvements. We're too goo to be too far out of it around the deadline to sell, and there's no 2012 if we don't win this year. But if we fail to win this year I imagine Danks, Floyd, Quentin, and even possibly the arb-eligible Alexei are gone. It would be one hell of a firesale. Hopefully this doesn't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 QUOTE (Disco72 @ Jan 28, 2011 -> 11:52 AM) If the team is performing, there is no way you trade Danks during the season. Even if for some reason they're not, it's far likelier we'd see a repeat of the crazy 2003 deadline IMO, where Kenny brought in Alomar, Everett, Schoenweis, and Sullivan. But I don't know how it would get to that point, considering the Tigers have lots of problems, the Royals and Indians are both looking at 90-loss seasons, and the Twins aren't exactly juggernauts despite being solid. Things would have to go seriously, seriously wrong to be out of it this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 This makes a world of sense and i won't be b****ing if this goes down. I can't deny that i hate watching Freddy pitch it's not recent Bartolo Colon bad, but it's close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 SI.com has a story with Freddy favoring the NYY, I imagine the state of their starting staff with or without Pettite they'll get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jan 27, 2011 -> 07:38 PM) #chisox considering freddy garcia. they like him. issue is return of peavy (june maybe) would make it 6 starters. - Jon Heyman I would be supportive of a Freddie Garcia return. I will be certain to tell KW and Ozzie when they call me for my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Jan 27, 2011 -> 08:59 PM) For those of you Freddy haters out there. Remember when the rest of the staff was sucking early on? Freddy went 4-1 in May and helped carry the team through June until they all got hot. Freddy was 4-0 in June as well. He did more than anyone expected and would be a great insurance policy for this ballclup! SIGN ME UP! I thought lightening doesn't strike the same place twice!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 28, 2011 -> 08:03 AM) Let's look at the list of starters or starter/relievers that will likely be in AA/AAA to start 2011. You are saying that one of these guys: Lucas Harrell Phil Humber Charlie Shirek Jeff Marquez Johnnie Lowe Brandon Hynick Charlie Leesman Matt Long Justin Edwards Terry Doyle Dylan Axelrod Is on par with Freddy Garcia? Right now? Sure, a couple of those guys may become decent starters at some point. But to open 2011? Really? I just threw up reading this list! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 QUOTE (joeynach @ Jan 28, 2011 -> 02:46 PM) I just threw up reading this list! There's a few talented guys in there, but not a one of them is likely to be an effective major league starter to open 2011. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 QUOTE (joeynach @ Jan 28, 2011 -> 02:46 PM) I just threw up reading this list! Is it possible to die from embarrassment? That's what I feel when I read that list. We may as well just shut our minor leagues down. At least the pitching side. Pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 28, 2011 -> 08:47 AM) The real problem with signing a Garcia is...what do you do with him if all of your other 5 starters are healthy. If you can get him on a deal where you can option him to the minors, that's perfect, but he ought to be able to find better than that just by going to NL clubs. The other place to put him is the bullpen...but I don't think that works that great either. I noted earlier how I don't think he's a good bullpen fit with his health issues and with his history of needing a long time to warm up. Beyond that though, there are only 2 guys in the bullpen who can effectively be sent down to the minors, Sale and Infante, and frankly, I expect that both of them would outpitch Freddy as bullpen guys this year. If everyone is healthy and there is no place for him, depending on how he's doing, he can be traded or Jackson could be traded. Someone is always looking for starting pitching. If the White Sox truly don't believe Peavy will be ready before May or June, I'd be shocked if they didn't try to add a veteran stopgap, and Freddy is probably the best one out there. If not Freddy, if I were KW, I'd look at Justin Duchscherer. If he is healthy enough, he can start at the beginning of the year, and you could slide him into the bullpen when and if Peavy is ready. Edited January 29, 2011 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/01/31/rep...-go-to-yankees/ CARACAS, Venezuela (CBS) – The White Sox have said they want Freddy Garcia back, but a new report says he might want to go to the Bronx instead. NESN reports Garcia wants to play for the New York Yankees for the coming season. Quoted in the Venezuelan paper Meridiano, Garcia said, “My preference is to be with the New York Yankees, and it’s not unreasonable to have that in mind, because I’ve demonstrated that I can be useful.” He went on to say a team like the Yankees would be “ideal for my age,” as would “playing in a successful, media-heavy, demanding division,” NESN reported. Last week, MLB.com reported that the White Sox hoped to bring back Garcia for the 2011 season. The team had expressed interest in keeping Garcia as far back as the end of last season, but his name was later linked to virtually every team with pitching needs, according to MLB Fanhouse. Garcia was the starting pitcher for Game 4 of the 2005 World Series, in which the White Sox won the title. He was traded to the Philadelphia Phillies in December 2006, but was later placed on the disabled list for a shoulder injury. After stints with the Detroit Tigers and New York Mets, Garcia returned to the White Sox in minor league contract, and started for the first time in three years for the Sox on Aug. 18, 2009. The Sox exercised their 2010 option on Garcia to keep him for another season afterward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Freddy's dealer must be in NY. Getting a little lazy in his old age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 QUOTE (Palehosefan @ Jan 31, 2011 -> 09:25 AM) Freddy's dealer must be in NY. Getting a little lazy in his old age. His best chance at staying in the rotation is with the Yankees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 (edited) How long until Oney Guillen airs out Freddy Garcia's dirty laundry for "betraying" his father's friendship to play for the yanks? I asked Oney that, and he called me "a delusional". Edited January 31, 2011 by Athomeboy_2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jan 31, 2011 -> 11:39 AM) How long until Oney Guillen airs out Freddy Garcia's dirty laundry for "betraying" his father's friendship to play for the yanks? I asked Oney that, and he called me "a delusional". I'm sure he would if Freddy talked about how bad of a manager Ozzie was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted January 31, 2011 Author Share Posted January 31, 2011 I guess every game in NEW YORK is a big game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 See ya Freddo... Hope the Sox don't beat up on you too bad when they play the Yanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Fredo, you're my older brother, and I love you. But don't ever take sides with anyone against the Family again. Ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Feddy is going to get tattooed in that division. An ERA over 5 is pretty much a given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jan 31, 2011 -> 04:16 PM) Feddy is going to get tattooed in that division. An ERA over 5 is pretty much a given. And in that ballpark as a righty? Damn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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