Rowand44 Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jan 29, 2011 -> 08:26 PM) No surprises here. System pretty much sucks. No legitimate SP prospects other than Sale, and even that's in question. Not sure how that's in question. He's obviously not a sure thing but he's absolutely an elite prospect. But yes, our system blows, everyone knows that already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 QUOTE (scenario @ Jan 30, 2011 -> 02:34 AM) IIRC, Infante had consecutive games last year (in the minors) where he threw 100mph pitches. I seem to also remember him having a pitch clocked at 103mph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 (edited) Think I know why I thought Infante wasn't thought to have plus velocity after re-reading a BA piece on him last year. Before last year he had primarily been a starter. Therefore he wasn't able to 'let it go' like he was able to as a reliever. And the pedestrian K-rate as a starter would support that theory. It wasn't until he was banished to the 'pen that his K-rate spiked dramatically. Edited January 30, 2011 by Jordan4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt4life Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 If you look at Escobar's numbers through his career he is giving us some reason be believe that his hit tool is coming around. Early on a good fastball would knock the bat out of his hands, as he's gotten older his numbers have gotten better and better, and he has started to hit the ball with some authority hitting 6HR last season after having just one his first 3 pro seasons combined. He also just turned 22 so he played half a season at AA at age 21. His bat isn't as bad as some people make it sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 QUOTE (bighurt4life @ Jan 30, 2011 -> 08:19 PM) If you look at Escobar's numbers through his career he is giving us some reason be believe that his hit tool is coming around. Early on a good fastball would knock the bat out of his hands, as he's gotten older his numbers have gotten better and better, and he has started to hit the ball with some authority hitting 6HR last season after having just one his first 3 pro seasons combined. He also just turned 22 so he played half a season at AA at age 21. His bat isn't as bad as some people make it sound. Also, didn't he hit like 5 HR in the AFL this fall? I realize it's the AFL, but 5 HR or whatever he hit is still impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 QUOTE (bighurt4life @ Jan 30, 2011 -> 07:19 PM) If you look at Escobar's numbers through his career he is giving us some reason be believe that his hit tool is coming around. Early on a good fastball would knock the bat out of his hands, as he's gotten older his numbers have gotten better and better, and he has started to hit the ball with some authority hitting 6HR last season after having just one his first 3 pro seasons combined. He also just turned 22 so he played half a season at AA at age 21. His bat isn't as bad as some people make it sound. He is taken the Brandon Allen route of developing. (which is very common with some prospects as well) Getting better every year and maturing overall in his game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jan 30, 2011 -> 08:20 PM) He is taken the Brandon Allen route of developing. (which is very common with some prospects as well) Getting better every year and maturing overall in his game. For power hitters sure, but I don't think that's standard practice for guys like Escobar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Escobar still needs to prove to me he can hit over a full season anywhere in the minor leagues before I get too excited about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 30, 2011 -> 10:59 PM) Escobar still needs to prove to me he can hit over a full season anywhere in the minor leagues before I get too excited about him. I don't think I'd get too excited about him even if he does hit. With the whole Sox infield under team control for at least 3 years and likely pitching needs over the next season, he's not hitting the big leagues with this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Harrell and Cofield don't belong on the list at all, and I think Rienzo and Flowers should be higher than they are. Otherwise looks about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted February 1, 2011 Author Share Posted February 1, 2011 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 31, 2011 -> 08:13 AM) Harrell and Cofield don't belong on the list at all, and I think Rienzo and Flowers should be higher than they are. Otherwise looks about right. Agree on Harrell, was shocked he was even in the top 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 30, 2011 -> 01:44 PM) I seem to also remember him having a pitch clocked at 103mph. That's just what I saw posted on the score board. Can't confirm if it was legit or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 QUOTE (Springfield SoxFan @ Jan 31, 2011 -> 08:11 PM) Agree on Harrell, was shocked he was even in the top 20. Harrell has promise, he just needs someone to focus him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 QUOTE (Springfield SoxFan @ Jan 29, 2011 -> 07:02 PM) 1. Chris Sale 2. Brent Morel 3. Dayan Viciedo 4. Jared Mitchell 5. Eduardo Escobar 6. Gregori Infante 7. Jacob Petrika 8. Brandon Short 9. Trace Thompson 10. Anthony Carter 11.. Charlie Leesman 12. Santos Rodriguez 13. Addison Reed 14. Mike Blanke 15. Lucas Harrell 16. Thomas Royse 17. Tyler Flowers 18. Jordan Danks 19. Andy Wilkins 20. Tyler Saldino 21. Nate Jones 22. Jhonny Nunez 23. Kyle Cofield 24. Miguel Gonzalez 25. Andre Rienzo 26. Josh Phegly 27. Matt Heidenreich 28. Jon Gilmore 29. Cameron Bayne 39. Spencer Arroyo 31. Kyle Bellamy Overall, it ranks the Sox system 27th. Thoughts? I ordered mine from Amazon to save some money. Thanks for spoiling the surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Got mine today. It's funny how excited I am to read about our awful minor league system. Imagine how excited die hard Royals fans must have been when they got their copy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 QUOTE (Pale Sox @ Feb 5, 2011 -> 02:52 AM) Got mine today. It's funny how excited I am to read about our awful minor league system. Imagine how excited die hard Royals fans must have been when they got their copy... Not hard when they've had next to nothing to get excited about for two decades. But yeah, they are loaded. They're going to be real good soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 QUOTE (Pale Sox @ Feb 5, 2011 -> 02:52 AM) Got mine today. It's funny how excited I am to read about our awful minor league system. Imagine how excited die hard Royals fans must have been when they got their copy... I'm partial to being excited when publications pick us to win our division, but maybe that is just me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 5, 2011 -> 09:58 AM) I'm partial to being excited when publications pick us to win our division, but maybe that is just me! Since when does recognizing your team's minor league system is in rough shape equal not caring about he major league team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 QUOTE (Pale Sox @ Feb 5, 2011 -> 01:44 PM) Since when does recognizing your team's minor league system is in rough shape equal not caring about he major league team? Well, since about 2005 with the White Sox, since we've heard the same thing about the minors every year since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Feb 5, 2011 -> 03:02 AM) Not hard when they've had next to nothing to get excited about for two decades. But yeah, they are loaded. They're going to be real good soon. Most of the Royals fans I know are tired of hearing about the future. They've heard about great prospects (Alex Gordon most recently) that either weren't successful or got traded before they could get them any help (Dye, Damon, Beltran, Greinke) for years. Royals fans aren't excited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 QUOTE (danman31 @ Feb 5, 2011 -> 11:36 PM) Most of the Royals fans I know are tired of hearing about the future. They've heard about great prospects (Alex Gordon most recently) that either weren't successful or got traded before they could get them any help (Dye, Damon, Beltran, Greinke) for years. Royals fans aren't excited. Then they may as well switch teams or find another sport. Because that farm is their only hope. I have to imagine there's some excitement with caution, atleast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 I think it's more of a believe it when I see it feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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