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Taxes: Married Filing Jointly vs. Separate


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Ok, here's the deal. Wife and I both claim 0, we own a home, we get f***ed in property taxes, etc etc, and somehow last year we owed over a thousand bucks. F*ck that, right?

 

Well, this year, even with a $900-some credit (30% back on a 95% energy efficient furnace) and tons of deductions (almost $30k worth), we were going to owe over a thousand bucks again!

 

I say, f*ck that, right?

 

So I started doing some research and happened upon suggestions that we file married, filing separately, since we have no children yet.

 

I'm using Turbo Tax online, and when I switched from joint to separate the total owed (fed and state) went from owing $1,000 to getting almost $4,000 in a refund.

 

Obviously, this raises a bunch of red flags for me. Does anyone out there with knowledge of tax law (not bird law) or access to said knowledge have any information for me?

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I don't know your situation but there are some situations where separate filings will get you back more. There's not quite enough info here for me to give a definite answer.

 

Is the house in both of your names? Do you have the deductions split by who has them? Is one income a lot more then the other? Etc.

 

Be careful (which is why you're asking, I know).

 

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The tax software will generally always err on the safe side, but garbage in gets garbage out. The area I would look at is are both of you taking a full deduction that only one is entitled to, or onoe that should be split in half.

 

In your situation I would take your last couple years returns to a tax expert and see what they come up with. You just saw what could be a $5k difference, spending $200 getting an expert seems cheap.

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QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jan 30, 2011 -> 07:32 PM)
I don't know your situation but there are some situations where separate filings will get you back more. There's not quite enough info here for me to give a definite answer.

 

Is the house in both of your names? Do you have the deductions split by who has them? Is one income a lot more then the other? Etc.

 

Be careful (which is why you're asking, I know).

 

That is the big thing... You both can't claim the same deductions, such as the house and the new furnace.

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QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jan 30, 2011 -> 07:32 PM)
I don't know your situation but there are some situations where separate filings will get you back more. There's not quite enough info here for me to give a definite answer.

 

Is the house in both of your names? Do you have the deductions split by who has them? Is one income a lot more then the other? Etc.

 

Be careful (which is why you're asking, I know).

The house is in both of our names. She makes 10% more than me. The deductions are not split yet. I was considering putting the house on her taxes and then just doing mine straight.

 

Can I just put the house on her taxes without any ramifications?

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 30, 2011 -> 07:59 PM)
That is the big thing... You both can't claim the same deductions, such as the house and the new furnace.

Yeah, I was thinking I'd put them on just one of the returns and the other return would simply be based on income. It's unfathomable that I should owe $1k each year.

 

I've reached out to some professionals, but if anyone else has more information or experience doing this, it'd be appreciated. I figure if I cross all my t's and dot all my i's, even if I get audited there's nothing much to worry about.

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 1, 2011 -> 02:13 PM)
Probably would be best to just go to a local tax guy who can go over everything in detail. I can give you the name of the guy my dad handed his clients over to when he went to the IRS a couple of years ago, if you want.

 

Eh, there are at least two d-bag CPA's on here... ;)

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 1, 2011 -> 02:28 PM)
Eh, there are at least two d-bag CPA's on here... ;)

 

I know, it just seems to me that without him sending you a bit more detailed information, it'd be hard to make a good, solid recommendation. Then again, maybe that's just because my dad gives the "I'm not a financial advisor" disclaimer even to me if I ask him something.

 

Besides, kap's not local :P

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 1, 2011 -> 02:35 PM)
I know, it just seems to me that without him sending you a bit more detailed information, it'd be hard to make a good, solid recommendation. Then again, maybe that's just because my dad gives the "I'm not a financial advisor" disclaimer even to me if I ask him something.

 

Besides, kap's not local :P

 

I just wanted the chance to call Jason and Kap D-bags :lol:

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 1, 2011 -> 09:41 PM)
Off-topic... did you parents get taken care of?

 

 

Yea, ended up going through IAH instead... but the car was a popcicle when they got back to IND I guess. Two hours to get the ice thin enough to get in the door.

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Taxes become a pain in the ass when you have several investments, I had something like 76.8 shares of BP (total between 2 accounts) and transferred them to my main brokerage account, ironically to make it easier to keep track of in a single account. You can only transfer full shares of a stock so they cut me a check for the partial share, one was worth $29.96 and the other $19.09 (but they gave it to me in one check). It actually didn't even occur to me at the time that this $50 bucks or so was taxable. So I had to enter those miniscule amounts, and the tax withheld, and THEN find the cost basis, which wasn't even on my 1099. How annoying, I have no f***ing idea what the cost basis is so I had to look up what the cost of BP stock was on the date of the last dividend before I transferred the shares. A friend of mine told me though "as an auditor I'd say you're safe."

 

At least next year, I'll have ONE 1099-DIV and not 3 or 4 like I was doing.

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QUOTE (lostfan @ Feb 12, 2011 -> 07:06 PM)
Taxes become a pain in the ass when you have several investments, I had something like 76.8 shares of BP (total between 2 accounts) and transferred them to my main brokerage account, ironically to make it easier to keep track of in a single account. You can only transfer full shares of a stock so they cut me a check for the partial share, one was worth $29.96 and the other $19.09 (but they gave it to me in one check). It actually didn't even occur to me at the time that this $50 bucks or so was taxable. So I had to enter those miniscule amounts, and the tax withheld, and THEN find the cost basis, which wasn't even on my 1099. How annoying, I have no f***ing idea what the cost basis is so I had to look up what the cost of BP stock was on the date of the last dividend before I transferred the shares. A friend of mine told me though "as an auditor I'd say you're safe."

 

At least next year, I'll have ONE 1099-DIV and not 3 or 4 like I was doing.

 

 

:lol:

 

Ignorance is not an allowable deduction. :)

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