*Official* Work Out Thread

[Y2HH]

Yeah, I realize that there are always going to be things you can supplement with...but our bodies can survive and thrive eating local diets just fine...I don't think nature contemplates we are going to get the full worldly smorgasbord of nutrients from all corners of the globe. Are these other nutrients, at $4 a day, really going to add a recognizable difference to my health, or is it just small returns at this point?

 

I'd like to add, that is my base diet. I certainly will splurge on the weekend and have pizza or maybe have some pho for lunch once in awhile. But those ingredients I listed above are about 75% of my food intake over the course of a normal week.

 

This all depends on your current diet.

 

Reddy means well in his pitch here...because he's basically saying (correctly I might add), that doing this can assure you of a better diet in an easier form factor than eating properly on your own.

 

That said, if you already eat well, then using this product in place of your already proper diet won't do much of anything, to be perfectly honest. Though, it would be hard to prove this either way. People lean on this 'eastern' diet myth a lot, simply because of the lack of choices of "bad" foods in that area. If you eat properly here, without those types of obscure fruits/veggies, you'd probably live just as long and be just as healthy with our western healthy alternatives. Just because poor diet choices exist here that don't exist so readily there, doesn't mean you have to eat that way.

[Y2HH]

dude stop making assumptions. you're extrapolating what i'm saying to a ridiculous extent. I also agree with moderation.

 

I use Shakeology as a supplement - NOT a meal replacement.

 

But it's not a supplement, it's a meal replacement.

[iamshack]

dude stop making assumptions. you're extrapolating what i'm saying to a ridiculous extent. I also agree with moderation.

 

I use Shakeology as a supplement - NOT a meal replacement.

I think you are both right...again, sugars in fruits are not bad...but our bodies have evolved to absorb only so much fructose or sucrose at a time...overloading on them, whether in natural sugars or artificial sweeteners isn't good.

 

From a natural standpoint, your body would tell you if you were eating too much fruit by feeling sick to your stomach...but by combining them into these superconcentrated drinks, your body doesn't get a chance to send those signals.

[RockRaines]

FYI, if you are in chicago and like a quick lunch or breakfast I REALLY recommend Protein Bar. Awesome food with some really good nutritional benefits.

[iamshack]

This all depends on your current diet.

 

Reddy means well in his pitch here...because he's basically saying (correctly I might add), that doing this can assure you of a better diet in an easier form factor than eating properly on your own.

 

That said, if you already eat well, then using this product in place of your already proper diet won't do much of anything, to be perfectly honest. Though, it would be hard to prove this either way. People lean on this 'eastern' diet myth a lot, simply because of the lack of choices of "bad" foods in that area. If you eat properly here, without those types of obscure fruits/veggies, you'd probably live just as long and be just as healthy with our western healthy alternatives. Just because poor diet choices exist here that don't exist so readily there, doesn't mean you have to eat that way.

Ok, so it is a meal replacement? I wouldn't be looking to substitute for my meals; I enjoy eating too much. I was thinking more as a supplement.

 

I honestly feel great on my diet, and I don't think I have been sick since I started working out and eating better 3 years ago. Once or twice I have begun to feel like I was getting sick, and then it went away. That was clearly my body fighting something off that normally would have set in and sidetracked me for 3-4 days before.

 

I guess I will look into getting some samples. Maybe I could try it on days when I don't eat particularly well.

[Y2HH]

I think you are both right...again, sugars in fruits are not bad...but our bodies have evolved to absorb only so much fructose or sucrose at a time...overloading on them, whether in natural sugars or artificial sweeteners isn't good.

 

From a natural standpoint, your body would tell you if you were eating too much fruit by feeling sick to your stomach...but by combining them into these superconcentrated drinks, your body doesn't get a chance to send those signals.

 

Sugars in anything are not bad, so long as you don't overdo it.

 

This is the problem with modern America and it's overly "health" crazed people...they speak about moderation but almost never use it. They tend to jump off the deep end of health/fitness once they get into it, with their time consuming diets, over supplementing, wasting money on vitamins that their body pisses 99% of away, judging people who like to eat fast food once in a while, etc...

 

It annoys me.

[Y2HH]

Ok, so it is a meal replacement? I wouldn't be looking to substitute for my meals; I enjoy eating too much. I was thinking more as a supplement.

 

I honestly feel great on my diet, and I don't think I have been sick since I started working out and eating better 3 years ago. Once or twice I have begun to feel like I was getting sick, and then it went away. That was clearly my body fighting something off that normally would have set in and sidetracked me for 3-4 days before.

 

I guess I will look into getting some samples. Maybe I could try it on days when I don't eat particularly well.

 

People use it as a supplement, but that's not what it is. It's a meal replacement, their advertising even says so.

[Reddy]

This all depends on your current diet.

 

Reddy means well in his pitch here...because he's basically saying (correctly I might add), that doing this can assure you of a better diet in an easier form factor than eating properly on your own.

 

That said, if you already eat well, then using this product in place of your already proper diet won't do much of anything, to be perfectly honest. Though, it would be hard to prove this either way. People lean on this 'eastern' diet myth a lot, simply because of the lack of choices of "bad" foods in that area. If you eat properly here, without those types of obscure fruits/veggies, you'd probably live just as long and be just as healthy with our western healthy alternatives. Just because poor diet choices exist here that don't exist so readily there, doesn't mean you have to eat that way.

this, unfortunately, is going to be tough for me to combat because it's all subjective.

 

personally, i believe these kinds of foods DO make a difference, and I'll bring up again my argument about eastern cultures having lower rates of mega-diseases than in America. There IS a difference between the foods found over there and the stuff we have available here. To say that the foods we have access to MUST BE equivalent to the foods over there is a little misinformed.

 

I eat incredibly healthy AND supplement with Shakeology, and I have tons of energy and I don't get sick. Maybe it's the free range chicken - but odds are it's the superfoods that have been proven to be beneficial.

 

http://myshakeology.com/esuite/home/CoachR...etLocaleCode=en

[Reddy]

People use it as a supplement, but that's not what it is. It's a meal replacement, their advertising even says so.

Good lord man, it is whatever you USE it for.

 

It's used as a meal replacement if you're looking to lose a bunch of weight. If you're not, it can be used to supplement. Do you sell the stuff? You seem to know an awful lot about it!

[iamshack]

this, unfortunately, is going to be tough for me to combat because it's all subjective.

 

personally, i believe these kinds of foods DO make a difference, and I'll bring up again my argument about eastern cultures having lower rates of mega-diseases than in America. There IS a difference between the foods found over there and the stuff we have available here. To say that the foods we have access to MUST BE equivalent to the foods over there is a little misinformed.

 

I eat incredibly healthy AND supplement with Shakeology, and I have tons of energy and I don't get sick. Maybe it's the free range chicken - but odds are it's the superfoods that have been proven to be beneficial.

 

http://myshakeology.com/esuite/home/CoachR...etLocaleCode=en

It's tough to compare the eastern diet to the western diet because I am not exactly eating what would be called a western diet. I am basically mimicking the eastern diet with western equivalents, or the like.

[iamshack]

And just to make this clear, I asked Reddy to sell it to me...and that is all he is doing.

 

Thanks Reddy.

[Reddy]

also a bonus is that you can return the bag of shakeology at any time, even if you've used 90% of it. If you're not satisfied, you get all your money back. they believe in this thing that strongly.

[iamshack]

also a bonus is that you can return the bag of shakeology at any time, even if you've used 90% of it. If you're not satisfied, you get all your money back. they believe in this thing that strongly.

Yeah, I'm not one to do that...I buy all their products when I have access to them for free. I believe in supporting products that I love. P90X has absolutely changed my life, in so many ways. Buying their products legitimately is the least I could do to thank them.

[Y2HH]

this, unfortunately, is going to be tough for me to combat because it's all subjective.

 

personally, i believe these kinds of foods DO make a difference, and I'll bring up again my argument about eastern cultures having lower rates of mega-diseases than in America. There IS a difference between the foods found over there and the stuff we have available here. To say that the foods we have access to MUST BE equivalent to the foods over there is a little misinformed.

 

I eat incredibly healthy AND supplement with Shakeology, and I have tons of energy and I don't get sick. Maybe it's the free range chicken - but odds are it's the superfoods that have been proven to be beneficial.

 

http://myshakeology.com/esuite/home/CoachR...etLocaleCode=en

 

I never said they were absolutely equivalent, I said alternatives that are just as healthy can be found here, even if they have different concentrations of vitamins/minerals contained within.

 

While eating a proper diet does have something to do with fighting sickness, it's probably not as much as people would like to believe. Sometimes, not getting sick is luck...but eating properly does not and will not make you immune to viruses, colds, flu's, bacteria, etc...it will simply weaponize your body in fighting them off a bit better...but you can still get sick if you're exposed to the wrong bug at the wrong time.

 

Eastern cultures also have higher rates of other mega diseases we don't have here at all...they're not this immune Utopia you seem to believe. They don't have the same sicknesses we have here, so of course when weighing apples vs oranges, you can get the results you want for this argument.

[Reddy]

I never said they were absolutely equivalent, I said alternatives that are just as healthy can be found here, even if they have different concentrations of vitamins/minerals contained within.

 

While eating a proper diet does have something to do with fighting sickness, it's probably not as much as people would like to believe. Sometimes, not getting sick is luck...but eating properly does not and will not make you immune to viruses, colds, flu's, bacteria, etc...it will simply weaponize your body in fighting them off a bit better...but you can still get sick if you're exposed to the wrong bug at the wrong time.

 

Eastern cultures also have higher rates of other mega diseases we don't have here at all...they're not this immune Utopia you seem to believe. They don't have the same sicknesses we have here, so of course when weighing apples vs oranges, you can get the results you want for this argument.

UGH i just so completely and utterly disagree with you with EVERY fiber of my being.

 

Someone who eats mcdonalds every day will get sick more often than someone who eats like i do.

[iamshack]

I never said they were absolutely equivalent, I said alternatives that are just as healthy can be found here, even if they have different concentrations of vitamins/minerals contained within.

 

While eating a proper diet does have something to do with fighting sickness, it's probably not as much as people would like to believe. Sometimes, not getting sick is luck...but eating properly does not and will not make you immune to viruses, colds, flu's, bacteria, etc...it will simply weaponize your body in fighting them off a bit better...but you can still get sick if you're exposed to the wrong bug at the wrong time.

 

Eastern cultures also have higher rates of other mega diseases we don't have here at all...they're not this immune Utopia you seem to believe. They don't have the same sicknesses we have here, so of course when weighing apples vs oranges, you can get the results you want for this argument.

You're probably right, but a lot of exercise and the diet that comes along with it has really allowed me to fight off those bugs when I wasn't before. I used to get sick at least 2-3 times a year, but the last three years, I have not been sick once.

[Reddy]

Yeah, I'm not one to do that...I buy all their products when I have access to them for free. I believe in supporting products that I love. P90X has absolutely changed my life, in so many ways. Buying their products legitimately is the least I could do to thank them.

I use the Vegan Chocolate Shakeology and I'm legitimately obsessed. I can shoot you a sample if you're interested. PM me if you want.

[RockRaines]

You're probably right, but a lot of exercise and the diet that comes along with it has really allowed me to fight off those bugs when I wasn't before. I used to get sick at least 2-3 times a year, but the last three years, I have not been sick once.

I see similar results, I was one of those people that got sick all the time, and I've had incredible luck this year mostly due to just being more healthy. I also believe HEAVILY in foods that help with joints and reducing inflammation.

[Y2HH]

Good lord man, it is whatever you USE it for.

 

It's used as a meal replacement if you're looking to lose a bunch of weight. If you're not, it can be used to supplement. Do you sell the stuff? You seem to know an awful lot about it!

 

If you know what your doing, yes, it can be used to supplement...unfortunately, the crowd they're selling this too often doesn't know what they're doing. While YOU may be able to use this as a supplement, because you know how to eat, and know what you're eating...others...not so much. The idea behind meal replacement is for people that would ordinarily just eat whatever, and have no balance to to their intake of calories (what's in them) and this product forces them, for that one meal, to eat properly.

 

You can use a wrench as a hammer, too...doesn't mean you're supposed to.

[Y2HH]

You're probably right, but a lot of exercise and the diet that comes along with it has really allowed me to fight off those bugs when I wasn't before. I used to get sick at least 2-3 times a year, but the last three years, I have not been sick once.

 

There is no doubt about this.

[Y2HH]

UGH i just so completely and utterly disagree with you with EVERY fiber of my being.

 

Someone who eats mcdonalds every day will get sick more often than someone who eats like i do.

 

I basically said that, so what exactly did you actually disagree with?

[Reddy]

I basically said that, so what exactly did you actually disagree with?

haha i missed the little caveat about weaponizing yourself. touche.

[Reddy]

If you know what your doing, yes, it can be used to supplement...unfortunately, the crowd they're selling this too often doesn't know what they're doing. While YOU may be able to use this as a supplement, because you know how to eat, and know what you're eating...others...not so much. The idea behind meal replacement is for people that would ordinarily just eat whatever, and have no balance to to their intake of calories (what's in them) and this product forces them, for that one meal, to eat properly.

 

You can use a wrench as a hammer, too...doesn't mean you're supposed to.

that's why everyone is given access to a coach. whether they take advantage of that or not is their own problem.

[Y2HH]

that's why everyone is given access to a coach. whether they take advantage of that or not is their own problem.

 

Well, come on now...you've been doing this long enough to realize that for every person like yourself, there are 50 that WANT to be like you, but have absolutely zero willpower...and don't actually care what's going into their bodies UNTIL something goes wrong. Then they care...for a few weeks. As soon as they feel better, they're right back to where they were again.

 

They also have to recognize that a diet has to be tailored to an individual, and everyone is different, with different deficiencies and requirements. A lot of trainers I've known in my life tend to push a one-size-fits-all diet on people, regardless of how little they know about them. They know it works for them, so they assume it will work for everyone

[iamshack]

Well, come on now...you've been doing this long enough to realize that for every person like yourself, there are 50 that WANT to be like you, but have absolutely zero willpower...and don't actually care what's going into their bodies UNTIL something goes wrong. Then they care...for a few weeks. As soon as they feel better, they're right back to where they were again.

 

They also have to recognize that a diet has to be tailored to an individual, and everyone is different, with different deficiencies and requirements. A lot of trainers I've known in my life tend to push a one-size-fits-all diet on people, regardless of how little they know about them. They know it works for them, so they assume it will work for everyone

Yeah, that is really the worst thing they can do to someone. Everyone has to find what works for them and what they can stick with over the long-term.