knightni Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Silva signed with Seattle as a free agent to a monster deal - stunk it up, then got dealt to the Cubs for Milton Bradley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 13, 2011 -> 07:06 AM) Off the top of my head, I can't remember if Carlos Silva left as a free agent or was traded. He was another of those classic guys who "overachieved" when pitching for the Twins. I disagree that he overacheived. Over the 4 years in Minny, he was pretty average. I think once he got to Seattle, the Mariners had given him so much money, he stopped trying at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 12, 2011 -> 07:16 PM) I strongly doubt that. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 12, 2011 -> 09:59 PM) Mauer has a history of knee problems. It is the reason that they have been talking about moving him away from catching since he got to the majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 I haven't seen anything to indicate that he has a degenerative condition or anything along those lines. He jammed his knee in 2004 and had some stuff cleaned up this past offseason. It doesn't appear that there is anything that is serious at all with regards to his knee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 12, 2011 -> 11:59 PM) Mauer has a history of knee problems. It is the reason that they have been talking about moving him away from catching since he got to the majors. People are just paranoid about catchers so a guy that has that much value from just his bat is always going to have the talk surrounding him that he should switch positions. Problem there is that Mauer is so awesome behind the plate too that you can't be in any rush to move him anywhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxrwhite Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 If Morneau doesn't come back 100% look for them to move him and put Mauer at first in a year or two. A catcher is a foul tip away from a career ender at any moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 QUOTE (since56 @ Feb 13, 2011 -> 07:06 PM) If Morneau doesn't come back 100% look for them to move him and put Mauer at first in a year or two. A catcher is a foul tip away from a career ender at any moment. Just a little bit of hyperbole there. The most extreme it would be would be one foul tip away from having one testicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 QUOTE (since56 @ Feb 13, 2011 -> 07:06 PM) If Morneau doesn't come back 100% look for them to move him and put Mauer at first in a year or two. A catcher is a foul tip away from a career ender at any moment. Who would trade for that contract if he wasn't 100%? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 (edited) Considering the outrage on this board when Toby Hall was injured playing first base in a spring training game, why would moving Mauer from behind the plate be different? Also all the grief Hawk still gets whenever his tenure as a GM is mentioned trying to move Fisk to LF. There was always talk about Piazza moving to another position but it didn't happen until he DH'd his final year. I imagine Mauer will fight moving as well, considering he's a far better defensive player than Piazza and probably better defensively than Fisk. I think guys that have caught all their lives would have trouble moving. Its a totally different deal not being involved with every pitch. I think the only way Mauer moves is if he gets hurt first. Edited February 14, 2011 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 12, 2011 -> 09:02 AM) And let's not forget the "hometown hero/Paul Bunyan" side of this... They really had little choice but to give him that contract. Now, with the Cardinals and Pujols, that's a somewhat different story...because they would be giving Pujols contract dollars far into what could be the downside of his career in his 30's. I can't remember what website does the "true financial value" analysis which incorporates souvenir sales/marketing "Q" ratings, etc., but the Mariners until recent years have always felt they were getting a good ROI on the Ichiro contract and this is definitely one of those situations. Now a Morneau that's not healthy/productive or a Nathan that requires at least a year to work back to prior levels as the closer, that's going to hurt them a lot more than a down season for Mauer. If you could somehow find this magical website you speak of that would be freaking great and I would send you 20 virtual dollars. But seriously, if you can find this that would be great I would really enjoy that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Considering the outrage on this board when Toby Hall was injured playing first base in a spring training game, why would moving Mauer from behind the plate be different? Also all the grief Hawk still gets whenever his tenure as a GM is mentioned trying to move Fisk to LF. There was always talk about Piazza moving to another position but it didn't happen until he DH'd his final year. I imagine Mauer will fight moving as well, considering he's a far better defensive player than Piazza and probably better defensively than Fisk. I think guys that have caught all their lives would have trouble moving. Its a totally different deal not being involved with every pitch. I think the only way Mauer moves is if he gets hurt first. Wouldn't it make sense that either Mauer or Morneau wind up as DH candidates at some point to save on the wear and tear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxrwhite Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 13, 2011 -> 07:20 PM) Just a little bit of hyperbole there. The most extreme it would be would be one foul tip away from having one testicle. OUCH!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 QUOTE (iamshack @ Feb 10, 2011 -> 08:41 PM) It's unfortunate they wouldn't trade him to us. I would love to have him. Maybe we make a run at him in FA after Danksy is gone. Wouldn't mind them trading him out of the division though. I don't see Liriano being the type of pitcher we would go after, unless Don Cooper knows something that the rest of us don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 13, 2011 -> 05:46 PM) I haven't seen anything to indicate that he has a degenerative condition or anything along those lines. He jammed his knee in 2004 and had some stuff cleaned up this past offseason. It doesn't appear that there is anything that is serious at all with regards to his knee. There is this from the other day. I know it downplays the shots, but I swear that they were talking about moving Mauer to 2B when he came up to the majors because of his knees. http://www.startribune.com/sports/twins/blogs/116729089.html Twins catcher Joe Mauer clearly wasn't thrilled that manager Ron Gardenhire informed the media that he received an injection in his left knee yesterday. ``I kinda wish it wasn't out there,'' Mauer said, ``but here we are.'' Mauer was injected with Supartz, a solution that helps lubricate knee joints. Treatments like Supartz and Synvisc (which Nick Blackburn has in his knee) have been very effective over the years. Mauer said some NFL linemen are injected with Supartz, which could be a good sign for someone who has to squat for nine innings, The decision to have the injections came in the weeks following his December surgery to clean up the knee. ``We talked about it a little bit as a possibility,'' Mauer said. ``It's pretty common. A lot of athletes have them. I guess being a catcher and all that stuff, it might sound a lot worse than what it is.'' Mauer is supposed to take it easy today and be checked on again Thursday. There are still no plans to have him catch in the bullpen. Supartz, by the way, is administered through as many as five shots. Mauer acknowledged that he will need two or three more shots, each one given about a week apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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