MLBN lists

[Buehrle>Wood]

Aparently their lists all leaked for their ongoing list series. Anyways, here's the apparent lists:

 

MLB Network has been running this series for a while it seems. The complete list leaked anyway though. Here's the rest:

 

Starting Pitchers

10. Josh Johnson

9. Justin Verlander

8. Adam Wainwright

7. Cliff Lee

6. David Price

5. Jon Lester

4. CC Sabathia

3. Tim Lincecum

2. Felix Hernandez

1. Roy Halladay

 

Relievers

10. Aroldis Chapman

9. Jose Valverde

8. Rafael Soriano

7. Andrew Bailey

6. Heath Bell

5. Carlos Marmol

4. Neftali Feliz

3. Joakim Soria

2. Brian Wilson

1. Mariano Rivera

 

First Basemen

10. Kendry Morales

9. Justin Morneau

8. Paul Konerko

7. Prince Fielder

6. Ryan Howard

5. Mark Teixeira

4. Joey Votto

3. Adrian Gonzalez

2. Miguel Cabrera

1. Albert Pujols

 

Second Basemen

10. Neil Walker

9. Kelly Johnson

8. Brian Roberts

7. Rickie Weeks

6. Ian Kinsler

5. Brandon Phillips

4. Dan Uggla

3. Dustin Pedroia

2. Chase Utley

1. Robinson Cano

 

Third Basemen

10. Casey McGehee

9. Placido Polanco

8. Scott Rolen

7. Mark Reynolds

6. David Wright

5. Adrian Beltre

4. Kevin Youkilis

3. Alex Rodriguez

2. Ryan Zimmerman

1. Evan Longoria

 

Shortstops

10. Starlin Castro

9. Marco Scutaro

8. Stephen Drew

7. Alexei Ramirez

6. Jimmy Rollins

5. Elvis Andrus

4. Jose Reyes

3. Derek Jeter

2. Troy Tulowitzki

1. Hanley Ramirez

 

Left Fielders

10. Raul Ibanez

9. Carlos Lee

8. Jason Bay

7. Martin Prado

6. Delmon Young

5. Matt Holliday

4. Carl Crawford

3. Carlos Gonzalez

2. Josh Hamilton

1. Ryan Braun

 

Center Fielders

10. Grady Sizemore

9. Jacoby Ellsbury

8. Torii Hunter

7. Vernon Wells

6. Colby Rasmus

5. Austin Jackson

4. Shane Victorino

3. Curtis Granderson

2. Matt Kemp

1. Andrew McCutchen

 

Right Fielders

10. Justin Upton

9. Nick Markakis

8. Mike Stanton

7. Jason Heyward

6. Nelson Cruz

5. Andre Ethier

4. Jose Bautista

3. Jayson Werth

2. Shin-Soo Choo

1. Ichiro Suzuki

 

Managers

10. Joe Girardi

9. Bud Black

8. Buck Showalter

7. Dusty Baker

6. Bruce Bochy

5. Tony La Russa

4. Charlie Manuel

3. Ron Gardenhire

2. Mike Scioscia

1. Terry Francona

 

I only spot 2 Sox. Alexei should be higher.

[Jordan4life_2007]

Wow, some of those are horrible. Upton and Ramirez are ranked way too low. From the pitching side, Johnson and Marmol should be ranked way higher. Honestly, and this pains me to say this, if Marmol could just knock that BB/9 to 4.0 I might rank him at #1 for RP. No reliever on the planet has as good a stuff as Marmol, and that includes Rivera. 16.0 K/9. Get the f*** outta here. That's just not right.

 

Lol. I just noticed no Rios on the CF list.

Edited February 11, 2011 by Jordan4life

[Rowand44]

These lists were just supposed to be based on 2010, correct?

[ChiliIrishHammock24]

There is no excuse for Alexei to not be on everyone top 5 list, and I'd even put him at #3 behind Tulo and Hanley.

[chw42]

Aparently their lists all leaked for their ongoing list series. Anyways, here's the apparent lists:

 

MLB Network has been running this series for a while it seems. The complete list leaked anyway though. Here's the rest:

 

Starting Pitchers

10. Josh Johnson

9. Justin Verlander

8. Adam Wainwright

7. Cliff Lee

6. David Price

5. Jon Lester

4. CC Sabathia

3. Tim Lincecum

2. Felix Hernandez

1. Roy Halladay

 

Relievers

10. Aroldis Chapman

9. Jose Valverde

8. Rafael Soriano

7. Andrew Bailey

6. Heath Bell

5. Carlos Marmol

4. Neftali Feliz

3. Joakim Soria

2. Brian Wilson

1. Mariano Rivera

 

First Basemen

10. Kendry Morales

9. Justin Morneau

8. Paul Konerko

7. Prince Fielder

6. Ryan Howard

5. Mark Teixeira

4. Joey Votto

3. Adrian Gonzalez

2. Miguel Cabrera

1. Albert Pujols

 

Second Basemen

10. Neil Walker Did the Pittsburgh writer who voted this guy for RoY make this list?

9. Kelly Johnson

8. Brian Roberts

7. Rickie Weeks

6. Ian Kinsler

5. Brandon Phillips

4. Dan Uggla

3. Dustin Pedroia

2. Chase Utley

1. Robinson Cano

 

Third Basemen

10. Casey McGehee

9. Placido Polanco

8. Scott Rolen

7. Mark Reynolds

6. David Wright

5. Adrian Beltre

4. Kevin Youkilis

3. Alex Rodriguez

2. Ryan Zimmerman

1. Evan Longoria

 

Shortstops

10. Starlin Castro

9. Marco Scutaro

8. Stephen Drew

7. Alexei Ramirez

6. Jimmy Rollins

5. Elvis Andrus

4. Jose Reyes

3. Derek Jeter LOL

2. Troy Tulowitzki

1. Hanley Ramirez

 

Left Fielders

10. Raul Ibanez

9. Carlos Lee

8. Jason Bay

7. Martin Prado He's not even a real LFer.

6. Delmon Young It's sad that I see this guy right after Matt Holliday.

5. Matt Holliday

4. Carl Crawford

3. Carlos Gonzalez

2. Josh Hamilton

1. Ryan Braun

 

Center Fielders

Where is Alex Rios?!?!?! You're telling me Matt Kemp and his horrible season last year can get #2 on this list and Grady Sizemore can be #10 after not playing a full season for two years and there's no Alex Rios?

10. Grady Sizemore

9. Jacoby Ellsbury

8. Torii Hunter

7. Vernon Wells He's in front of Rios...?

6. Colby Rasmus

5. Austin Jackson

4. Shane Victorino

3. Curtis Granderson

2. Matt Kemp

1. Andrew McCutchen

 

Right Fielders

10. Justin Upton

9. Nick Markakis

8. Mike Stanton Already? If you're gonna give Stanton so much love, you might as well put Heyward even higher.

7. Jason Heyward

6. Nelson Cruz

5. Andre Ethier

4. Jose Bautista

3. Jayson Werth

2. Shin-Soo Choo

1. Ichiro Suzuki

 

Managers

10. Joe Girardi

9. Bud Black

8. Buck Showalter

7. Dusty Baker Jesus Christ...

6. Bruce Bochy

5. Tony La Russa

4. Charlie Manuel

3. Ron Gardenhire

2. Mike Scioscia

1. Terry Francona

 

I only spot 2 Sox. Alexei should be higher.

 

WTFs are in bold. This list blows.

Edited February 11, 2011 by chw42

[Jordan4life_2007]

There is no excuse for Alexei to not be on everyone top 5 list, and I'd even put him at #3 behind Tulo and Hanley.

 

I'm inclined to agree with you. Though I'm predicting a mega breakout year from Stephen Drew. I've been a huge fan of his for a while.

[chw42]

These lists were just supposed to be based on 2010, correct?

 

In general I think. There's no way Jeter should be 3 on the SS list based on his 2010 season. None.

Edited February 11, 2011 by chw42

[ChiliIrishHammock24]

I'm inclined to agree with you. Though I'm predicting a mega breakout year from Stephen Drew. I've been a huge fan of his for a while.

 

Yeah, both seem like defensive wiz's, but Drew has higher offensive upside.

[Jordan4life_2007]

Yeah, both seem like defensive wiz's, but Drew has higher offensive upside.

 

Drew is third amongst all qualified SSs in OPS the last 3 years. He's an extra base machine. He's recorded more triples than any player in baseball since '08. Yes, more than Carl Crawford. What's crazy is most view him as an underachiever. If he can just be a tad more consistent (a few more HRs would be nice as well), he's easily the top SS in the game not named Hanley or Troy.

[joeynach]

no DH list

[Jordan4life_2007]

no DH list

 

Adam Dunn and the rest.

 

/the end

[witesoxfan]

Adam Dunn and the rest.

 

/the end

 

You missed Viciedo and Quentin!

[Harry Chappas]

I follow baseball, I really do.

 

I have never heard of Neil Walker.

 

There seemed to be a bit of a bias toward young NL central players on that list.

 

[PeavyTime]

These are atrocious

[Milkman delivers]

I thought MLB Network was supposed to be this unbiased network that was head and shoulders above ESPN?

 

There are also no catchers listed.

[BigSqwert]

The Jeter pick automatically makes this list rubbish.

[Leonard Zelig]

I thought MLB Network was supposed to be this unbiased network that was head and shoulders above ESPN?

 

There are also no catchers listed.

You think these lists are biased?

[Milkman delivers]

You think these lists are biased?

 

Well, it's really bad. They're either biased or just not good at making lists.

[ChiSox_Sonix]

You think these lists are biased?

 

Their SS list had Jeter at 3.

 

After I saw that a couple weeks ago I stopped caring about anything else they said in this series.

[Milkman delivers]

Their SS list had Jeter at 3.

After I saw that a couple weeks ago I stopped caring about anything else they said in this series.

 

That's the one that screams bias. I'm sure everyone else had the same reaction, but that name and rank just jumped off of the page.

[Leonard Zelig]

Their SS list had Jeter at 3.

 

After I saw that a couple weeks ago I stopped caring about anything else they said in this series.

Ok, that's 1 out of 100 in those lists. Just because you don't agree with it, doesn't mean they are biased. I don't think there is even 1 Yankee outfielder listed.

[Balta1701]

Ok, that's 1 out of 100 in those lists. Just because you don't agree with it, doesn't mean they are biased. I don't think there is even 1 Yankee outfielder listed.

Which of their OF's even remotely warranted inclusion based on their work last year?

 

It's not just the Yankees, there's some stuff that really is annoying on there. It's not what I'd call Yankee-bias, but there's definitely some "Big media bias" on there. The SS list...Reyes and Rollins? Seriously? After their last couple years?

[Leonard Zelig]

Which of their OF's even remotely warranted inclusion based on their work last year?

 

It's not just the Yankees, there's some stuff that really is annoying on there. It's not what I'd call Yankee-bias, but there's definitely some "Big media bias" on there. The SS list...Reyes and Rollins? Seriously? After their last couple years?

 

The top 3 OFs are from Seattle, Pittsburgh, and Milwaukee. There's some serious "Big media bias" there. I didn't say the list was flawless, but I just don't see the angle of bias.

[Balta1701]

The top 3 OFs are from Seattle, Pittsburgh, and Milwaukee. There's some serious "Big media bias" there. I didn't say the list was flawless, but I just don't see the angle of bias.

The worst one really is the list of SS's.

 

I can make complaints elsewhere (Francona as the top manager?), but there's about 5-6 ones I'd just call outright wrong on that list.

[cws0591]

this list is supposed to be the list of the best right now correct? it looks to me that thy went with some of the bigger names instead of actually looking at stats. Then again there are names on their that i have never heard of which i am ashamed of since i pride myself on knowing pretty much anyones major league roster. Neil?

at the same time i wanted to see Rios on the list but other than that maybe Dunn but DH is not on the list. But then it would be a whitesox bias for others.

Edited February 11, 2011 by cws0591