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QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Jun 5, 2011 -> 05:09 PM)
lol @ Albert homering in extra innings to beat the Cubs 2 days in a row.

First guy with back to back walkoffs since Albert Belle in 1995.

 

5th guy to do it since 1980. Tom Pacoirek is on the list of guys who did.

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Just Carlos being Carlos

ST. LOUIS -- Carlos Zambrano has had some vintage rants in his career, but Sunday's may be the one that finally gets him out of town.

 

After Carlos Marmol blew a win for Zambrano and Albert Pujols won it with a leadoff home run in the 10th, Zambrano lambasted the Cubs as "embarrassing" and a "Triple-A team," while questioning Marmol's pitch selection on Ryan Theriot's game-tying hit.

 

The problem wasn't Pujols," Zambrano said. "The problem was the (game-tying) at-bat. We should know better than this. We play like a Triple-A team. This is embarrassing, embarrassing for the team and the owners. Embarrassing for the fans. Embarrassed- that's the word for this team.

 

"We should know better than this. We should know better than what we (did) on the field. We should know that Ryan Theriot is not a good fastball hitter. We should know that as a team. We should play better here. We stink. That's all I've got to say."

 

Zambrano was referring to Marmol shaking off catcher Koyie Hill's call for a fastball on a 2-2 pitch with two outs in the ninth and the tying run on first.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 6, 2011 -> 10:40 AM)
That is just wishful thinking. No one is touching Z.

There's probably some level of money they could include to get someone to take the remainder of his deal off their hands. You'd take him if he was free, for example.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 6, 2011 -> 11:36 AM)
There's probably some level of money they could include to get someone to take the remainder of his deal off their hands. You'd take him if he was free, for example.

 

It would have to be some pretty special circumstances to take him for free even.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 6, 2011 -> 01:35 PM)
It would have to be some pretty special circumstances to take him for free even.

GMAB Man.

 

You're telling me that if they walked to the Yankees right now and said "Give us something garbage from single A and we'll give you Zambrano if you pay $10 million of what remains on his contract" they wouldn't jump at it?

 

The White Sox might think about it for a minute because they already have 6 starters, but if the Cubs offered him up for a couple million dollars remaining they'd jump at it.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 6, 2011 -> 12:39 PM)
GMAB Man.

 

You're telling me that if they walked to the Yankees right now and said "Give us something garbage from single A and we'll give you Zambrano if you pay $10 million of what remains on his contract" they wouldn't jump at it?

 

The White Sox might think about it for a minute because they already have 6 starters, but if the Cubs offered him up for a couple million dollars remaining they'd jump at it.

 

The Yankees are one of the few teams that fall into that special circumstance because of their starting rotation.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 6, 2011 -> 01:42 PM)
The Yankees are one of the few teams that fall into that special circumstance because of their starting rotation.

If there are several teams that would take him...then the circumstances aren't all that special.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 6, 2011 -> 12:49 PM)
Then...the "You" who would refuse to take him is probably the special circumstance.

 

 

Honestly it is too easy to narrow the list down. First you get rid of teams that are out of it, which is about a third of all teams. Next you knock of teams that aren't going to spend prospects to get pitching (because of the Cubs are picking up all of his contract, they are going to want something back. If they didn't, they would have already released him). Third are the teams which are close, but aren't going to take on that type of a nutcase in the fear that he could blow up what they have going. The next tier would be the teams who don't need starting pitching.

 

My list of chances for places to Z to land would look something like this

 

NY Yankees

Detroit

LA Dodgers

 

Maybe Arizona if they panic at the right time.

 

That is 3, maybe 4 teams out of 30.

 

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