Balta1701 Posted August 17, 2011 Author Share Posted August 17, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 17, 2011 -> 01:46 PM) That sounds vaguely familiar for some reason... If he struggles like this next year then a Gordon Beckham comparison works very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 17, 2011 -> 11:52 AM) If he struggles like this next year then a Gordon Beckham comparison works very well. While Heyward is only 22, you're right...for whatever reason, players do not seem to get any slack cut to them regarding their age once they reach the major leagues. You can be 24 years old only, but if you've been in the major leagues for 3 years and sucked, you are in danger of being a bust. However, if you rake against minor league pitching as you progress through the system at the very same age as the guy in the major leagues has been struggling, you are one hell of a prospect. That has never made sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Aug 17, 2011 -> 12:40 PM) As awesome at the Phillies are, even if they're healthy I wouldn't peg them as the NL champions just yet. I think they'd still be the favorite but assuming the Giants make the playoffs(yes I know they're 3.5 back but I still think they get in) then the NL is going to be really hard to navigate for anyone. Those should be some fun playoff series. I don't know about that. Other than Panda, they have nobody to hit the ball, and this year's D-Backs are better than the Padres were last year, when SF chased them down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 17, 2011 -> 12:58 PM) While Heyward is only 22, you're right...for whatever reason, players do not seem to get any slack cut to them regarding their age once they reach the major leagues. You can be 24 years old only, but if you've been in the major leagues for 3 years and sucked, you are in danger of being a bust. However, if you rake against minor league pitching as you progress through the system at the very same age as the guy in the major leagues has been struggling, you are one hell of a prospect. That has never made sense to me. The odds of failure versus success are much greater in MLB, so if you predict failure more often versus predicting success, you look "smarter". Also known as "Jay Mariotti theory". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 StoneLarry Larry Stone RHP Chance Ruffin is the PTBNL in Fister/Pauley trade, will be in uniform tonight for Mariners. Aaron Laffey DFA'd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 17, 2011 -> 12:10 PM) The odds of failure versus success are much greater in MLB, so if you predict failure more often versus predicting success, you look "smarter". Also known as "Jay Mariotti theory". Of course, but what I am saying is that the players that get tossed into the fire early are not given any additional time in most cases to succeed. It doesn't matter what your age is...if you have shown over the course of a few seasons that you cannot perform in the major leagues, despite your age, then you are usually not given any slack. However, the players that are allowed to come along slowly in the minor leagues are often allowed to reach their potential until they are 26, 27, or even older. So theoretically, a player such as Jason Heyward could fail in the major leagues from the ages of 21 until he is 24 and then be labeled a bust, while a player such as Ryan Howard might be raking in the minors during those same age years, and be allowed all kinds of additional time to succeed in the major leagues once he finally reaches them, say at the age of 26. I know in reality, a player with Heyward's potential would ultimately get extra chances to succeed from other teams, but it still seems inequitable to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Plus young players are usually forced into earlier play in bad situations, which doesn't help that at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 18, 2011 Author Share Posted August 18, 2011 15 day Dl for Youkilis. Sore lower back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Yeah, so if the Braves are ahead after 7 innings, Game Over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 QUOTE (Brian @ Aug 18, 2011 -> 08:41 PM) Yeah, so if the Braves are ahead after 7 innings, Game Over. Hopefully they can keep that up in the playoffs. Those two young arms have been worked hardcore this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 21, 2011 Author Share Posted August 21, 2011 Jose Tabata extended by the Pirates with a 6 year $14.75 mil deal, with 3 option years that could lock him up until 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Depending on your opinion, there's only one real race left...the NL West. D-backs 69-58 - Giants 68-60 1.5 6 left head-to-head, and even, easy schedules for the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 QUOTE (Brian @ Aug 18, 2011 -> 08:41 PM) Yeah, so if the Braves are ahead after 7 innings, Game Over. More like 6 innings to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 21, 2011 -> 04:32 PM) Jose Tabata extended by the Pirates with a 6 year $14.75 mil deal, with 3 option years that could lock him up until 2019. Decent risk for the Pirates, but I really like this deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 22, 2011 Author Share Posted August 22, 2011 QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Aug 21, 2011 -> 09:38 PM) Decent risk for the Pirates, but I really like this deal. $14.75 million to lock up a guy who's made it to the big leagues for 9 years? People risk that level of money on guys who have never played an inning of minor league ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 ESPNStatsInfo ESPN Stats & Info Elias Says: Sunday's Yankees/Twins game was the first game featuring two 600 home-run hitters (A-Rod, Thome) since 1973 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Astros officially eliminated on August 22. Six years later, I guess things could be worse for the White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Cardinals' Holliday leaves game after moth stuck in ear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Anyone know why? jcrasnick Jerry Crasnick #BlueJays general manager Alex Anthopoulos is holding a press conference at 3:30 p.m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 01:48 PM) Anyone know why? jcrasnick Jerry Crasnick #BlueJays general manager Alex Anthopoulos is holding a press conference at 3:30 p.m. They've reacquired Alex Rios on the waiver wire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 23, 2011 Author Share Posted August 23, 2011 He's announcing that he felt the earthquake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 AA getting signed to an extension? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Gambo620 John Gambadoro by mlbtraderumors The Diamondbacks have traded 2b Kelly Johnson to Toronto for 2b Aaron Hill and SS John McDonald. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 23, 2011 Author Share Posted August 23, 2011 Wow, after 2009 when Aaron Hill looked like he'd be a better version of Beckham and Kelly Johnson was getting DFA'd by the Braves, who'da thunk that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 ***patiently awaiting post praising AA for another genius move, further establishing his position as best GM ever*** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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