southsider2k5 Posted July 3, 2011 Author Share Posted July 3, 2011 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 2, 2011 -> 11:11 PM) It was never quiet. KW made a bigger offer than Hendry did, that was no secret. Fukudome just was lured away by the dreaminess of Cubdom Which begs the question... Biggest disaster in CF for the Sox. Torii Hunter, Koske Fukodome, or Alex Rios? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 Don't forget Rowand. It's just so unfortunate we didn't get Miggy Cabrera when we had a chance, personality/off-field warts and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 3, 2011 -> 12:05 AM) Don't forget Rowand. It's just so unfortunate we didn't get Miggy Cabrera when we had a chance, personality/off-field warts and all. Do you really think we had a chance? I'm sure we had talks with Florida but the package was pretty lackluster. Detroits centerpiece was Andrew Miller right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Real @ Jul 3, 2011 -> 12:18 AM) Do you really think we had a chance? I'm sure we had talks with Florida but the package was pretty lackluster. Detroits centerpiece was Andrew Miller right? Florida totally bombed that trade. They got nothing out of Maybin and Miller. The offer the Sox had out there would have been a much better return (wasn't Floyd or Danks in that offer?) Edited July 3, 2011 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 3, 2011 -> 03:47 AM) If we could afford it? Yes, for sure. What would that trade accomplish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 3, 2011 -> 01:47 AM) What would that trade accomplish? OBP and a little pop at the top of the order. It'd be a nice offensive upgrade though Fukudome isn't much with the glove his arm would still be an upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 3, 2011 -> 12:49 AM) Florida totally bombed that trade. They got nothing out of Maybin and Miller. The offer the Sox had out there would have been a much better return (wasn't Floyd or Danks in that offer?) The kicker was the Marlins were able to dump Dontrelle Willis on Detroit. The White Sox wouldn't take him. It saved Loria a ton of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 The kicker was the Marlins were able to dump Dontrelle Willis on Detroit. The White Sox wouldn't take him. It saved Loria a ton of money. DA, ironically we already have our own MC Lite in Dayan Viciedo who I think will blossom quite well at the Cell. I just made a poll for fun about him. Hope you cast a vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 QUOTE (SpainSOXfan09 @ Jul 3, 2011 -> 06:33 AM) DA, ironically we already have our own MC Lite in Dayan Viciedo who I think will blossom quite well at the Cell. I just made a poll for fun about him. Hope you cast a vote. Not sure I'd describe Viciedo as "lite". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 3, 2011 -> 12:05 AM) Don't forget Rowand. It's just so unfortunate we didn't get Miggy Cabrera when we had a chance, personality/off-field warts and all. Why is Rowand a disaster in CF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 3, 2011 -> 07:31 AM) Why is Rowand a disaster in CF? he's probably referring to his contract he got after leaving the sox, and how mediocre/bad he's been since getting it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 Quentin made the ASG but not konerko? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 2, 2011 -> 11:11 PM) Fukudome just was lured away by the dreaminess of Cubdom Being the first Japanese player in Cubs history may have had something to do with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 3, 2011 Author Share Posted July 3, 2011 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jul 3, 2011 -> 12:15 PM) Being the first Japanese player in Cubs history may have had something to do with that. That was one of the two things he wanted when he signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 QUOTE (daa84 @ Jul 3, 2011 -> 11:21 AM) Quentin made the ASG but not konerko? I'm not outraged by this at all - it's just a numbers game. Clearly, Konerko deserved to be on the roster, but there's 4 other 1B off the top of my head with damn good numbers. Somebody had to go, and it isn't going to be fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 (edited) ‘‘I might lose some respect from the players,’’ Guillen said on benching Pierre. ‘‘People believe in Juan; they know he’s our leader. I’m not afraid to bench a guy that’s not producing, as long as I have something else better or equal. But I think he plays the game right. He works. A lot of people look up to him. Our players love him. Edited July 3, 2011 by southsideirish71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 Road to 88 wins for the Sox, Tigers, and Indians: Sox (46-31) Cle 7-6 Det 7-5 KC 10-6 Min 8-6 Bal 3-1 Bos 2-1 NY 2-2 Tor 2-1 LAA 1-1 Sea 2-1 Tex 2-1 Indians (44-36) Chi 6-7 Det 6-6 KC 6-3 Min 8-5 Bal 2-2 Bos 2-2 NY 2-1 Tor 2-2 LAA 2-1 Oak 2-2 Sea 3-2 Tex 3-3 Tigers (43-34) Chi 5-7 Cle 6-6 KC 9-4 Min 8-5 Bal 5-2 TB 2-2 LAA 3-4 Oak 3-3 Tex 2-1 Hopefully the Sox exceed and the Indians and Tigers fall below, but this is kind of a realistic breakdown of the remaining opponents for each team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 3, 2011 -> 06:24 PM) Road to 88 wins for the Sox, Tigers, and Indians: Sox (46-31) Cle 7-6 Det 7-5 KC 10-6 Min 8-6 Bal 3-1 Bos 2-1 NY 2-2 Tor 2-1 LAA 1-1 Sea 2-1 Tex 2-1 Indians (44-36) Chi 6-7 Det 6-6 KC 6-3 Min 8-5 Bal 2-2 Bos 2-2 NY 2-1 Tor 2-2 LAA 2-1 Oak 2-2 Sea 3-2 Tex 3-3 Tigers (43-34) Chi 5-7 Cle 6-6 KC 9-4 Min 8-5 Bal 5-2 TB 2-2 LAA 3-4 Oak 3-3 Tex 2-1 Hopefully the Sox exceed and the Indians and Tigers fall below, but this is kind of a realistic breakdown of the remaining opponents for each team. Totally realistic. The Sox have been playing just below that clip for weeks now with guys far underperforming on offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 4, 2011 Author Share Posted July 4, 2011 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 3, 2011 -> 07:11 PM) Totally realistic. The Sox have been playing just below that clip for weeks now with guys far underperforming on offense. I agree totally. It really won't take much to win this division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 3, 2011 -> 07:24 PM) I agree totally. It really won't take much to win this division. Replace Dunn and Rios with Viciedo and De Aza and it's a done deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Can anyone name a young player groomed by Greg Walker that has developed a patient approach at the plate? Krispie Young is all I can come up with and I honestly don't know how much time with "Walk" he had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 QUOTE (GREEDY @ Jul 3, 2011 -> 08:44 PM) Can anyone name a young player groomed by Greg Walker that has developed a patient approach at the plate? Krispie Young is all I can come up with and I honestly don't know how much time with "Walk" he had. Who are you talking about? Chris Young? He was only a prospect when he was traded to AZ, and last I checked, his patience at the plate leaves a lot to be desired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jul 4, 2011 -> 02:36 AM) Replace Dunn and Rios with Viciedo and De Aza and it's a done deal. Great post. This isn't grade school ball where everybody gets to play. Why don't the Sox replace the dead weight? There's so much to gain with this pitching staff. We won't win squat with Rios and Dunn in the lineup. We just won't. And Becks needs to hit and Alexei needs a big second half as well. Two simple moves and we have a chance to win the division. Once again we are wasting some nasty pitching. Edited July 4, 2011 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 4, 2011 Author Share Posted July 4, 2011 QUOTE (GREEDY @ Jul 3, 2011 -> 08:44 PM) Can anyone name a young player groomed by Greg Walker that has developed a patient approach at the plate? Krispie Young is all I can come up with and I honestly don't know how much time with "Walk" he had. Paul Konerko waves from his 16,000 sq ft house in Scottsdale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 3, 2011 -> 10:11 PM) Paul Konerko waves from his 16,000 sq ft house in Scottsdale. beat me to it. i've said before, my only real beef with walker is he doesn't seem to get our hitters prepared for pitchers they've never faced. it isn't a one or two player thing, it's our entire lineup, regardless of the new players brought in. this happens year in, year out, and has been the Sox MO since Walker got here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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