Disco72 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 26, 2011 -> 07:03 PM) Even Smurfs are bigger than Lillibridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 By the way, reading this really infuriated me. Meanwhile, the importance of Tuesday's loss and Wednesday's game wasn't overlooked by Jake Peavy, who admitted he fatigued sooner than he expected and gave up 10 hits in six innings.Sooner than expected? Why he fatigued at the exact moment that everyone who has watched a White Sox game in the last month expected. Except for Ozzie Guillen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Colby Rasmus > Daniel Hudson > Edwin Jackson > Jason Frasor > dirt > KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 03:22 PM) Colby Rasmus > Daniel Hudson > Edwin Jackson > Jason Frasor > dirt > KW Please Steve, tell me how you really feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulstar Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Not saying I am upset at the notion that De Aza is gonna get most of the PT in CF for a while... but why did this team wait so long to make a change? I mean seriously, I don't know if he would have done s***, but couldn't we have made this change like almost 2 months ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 04:24 PM) Please Steve, tell me how you really feel. I'm perturbed at devaluation of assets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 04:29 PM) Not saying I am upset at the notion that De Aza is gonna get most of the PT in CF for a while... but why did this team wait so long to make a change? I mean seriously, I don't know if he would have done s***, but couldn't we have made this change like almost 2 months ago? Maybe because baseball is a long season and many players are more streaky than consistent. None of it would matter if they didn't dig such a big hole in the beginning of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Ozzie's comments make me so angry. He said that De Aza was in the right place at the right time, and he'll try to use him. In other words, Rios will be back in the lineup soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 02:19 PM) By the way, reading this really infuriated me. Sooner than expected? Why he fatigued at the exact moment that everyone who has watched a White Sox game in the last month expected. Except for Ozzie Guillen. The reality is you don't build his arm by yanking him at 75 pitches. It needs to be conditioned like any other muscle group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 02:02 AM) The reality is you don't build his arm by yanking him at 75 pitches. It needs to be conditioned like any other muscle group. Thing is, it seems his injury has prevented him from being able to stretch out for longer than 75 pitches. This is something the doctor warned the Sox about heading into the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:02 PM) The reality is you don't build his arm by yanking him at 75 pitches. It needs to be conditioned like any other muscle group. If he's breaking down at 75 right now, then push him until he gets in trouble. The moment to pull him was just too damn obvious. If he gets to 75 these 2 starts then hopefully the next week he can push to 80, then 85, etc. If you don't care about winning then sure, throw him 100 a game now, but it's time to clear house because we've thrown in the towel and are playin for next season rather than to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 09:16 PM) If he's breaking down at 75 right now, then push him until he gets in trouble. The moment to pull him was just too damn obvious. If he gets to 75 these 2 starts then hopefully the next week he can push to 80, then 85, etc. If you don't care about winning then sure, throw him 100 a game now, but it's time to clear house because we've thrown in the towel and are playin for next season rather than to win. They don't make the playoffs if Jake is not developing back towards 100+ pitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 08:27 PM) They don't make the playoffs if Jake is not developing back towards 100+ pitches. I agree, but they're also not making the playoffs if they continue to leave Jake in too long when it's clear he can't pitch effectively past the 5th. They lost in large part because of it last night, and every game is very important in such a tight race. Edited July 28, 2011 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 For anyone that watched The Franchise tonight, seemed like Sabean might have been referring to Quentin saying they were interested in him a few weeks ago but KW said they wanted to see how this week went. Not that it's a surprise...just something cool to see on tv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyuen Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 09:27 PM) They don't make the playoffs if Jake is not developing back towards 100+ pitches. They can make it without him. They don't make it if the offense continues to suck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Yeah, interesting to see if the Phillies/Braves and some of the other rumored Quentin destinations turn out now with Beltran off the market. If Upton's legitimately dangling out there, I would think opposing GM's have a helluva decision because there's so many variables with both Quentin and Upton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 08:27 PM) They don't make the playoffs if Jake is not developing back towards 100+ pitches. We have like 27 good relievers now, we can afford to pull Jake after 5 for 2 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:04 PM) We have like 27 good relievers now, we can afford to pull Jake after 5 for 2 months. Yup. True true until one of the relievers are dealt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 01:04 AM) We have like 27 good relievers now, we can afford to pull Jake after 5 for 2 months. Yeah, with a 7 man bullpen, I can totally live with 2 starters who only give you 80-ish pitches. Especially with Sale suddenly destroying teams for 3 innings every time out. Stretch them out if you can, but stop losing games because of it. We'd be what, a game out of 1st place if Ozzie had pulled Humber and Peavy at the right time every game since the AS break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalls2598 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Does anyone know who to contact in order to get a "shout out"/name mentioned during the Sox broadcast? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxrwhite Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 09:27 PM) They don't make the playoffs if Jake is not developing back towards 100+ pitches. It all hinges on Peavy? C'mon this team has never depended on him......can't. Edited July 28, 2011 by since56 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 QUOTE (since56 @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 09:36 AM) It all hinges on Peavy? C'mon this team has never depended on him......can't. Right now, Jake Peavy is an average 5th starter with a high contract. The team can still make it to the playoffs if he's nothing but a 5 inning guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Peavy moves to bullpen if we make the playoffs IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyuen Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 QUOTE (Real @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 08:54 AM) Peavy moves to bullpen if we make the playoffs IMO we sure hope so, even when Jake was an ace, he was a horrible big game pitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 QUOTE (docsox24 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:49 PM) They can make it without him. They don't make it if the offense continues to suck I get the feeling that Humber is going downhill right before our eyes. I don't know if it is IP catching up with him, or if it is a regression to where he realistically should be, but I am not counting on him for too much down the stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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