caulfield12 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 (edited) Stupid, stupid tweet by Rosenthal. Yeah, everyone in baseball knows about the issues with Peavy and Humber in the 5th/6th innings now. But he had to get something helpful back for Jackson (before the deadline), more than just getting a measly Type B sandwich pick which JUST might impact our team 3-4 years from now, but probably never. You can't fault his aggressiveness here, just getting rid of Teahen alone might have been worth it financially. Edited July 31, 2011 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 31, 2011 -> 01:22 AM) Stupid, stupid tweet by Rosenthal. Yeah, everyone in baseball knows about the issues with Peavy and Humber in the 5th/6th innings now. But he had to get something helpful back for Jackson (before the deadline), more than just getting a measly Type B sandwich pick which JUST might impact our team 3-4 years from now, but probably never. You can't fault his aggressiveness here, just getting rid of Teahen alone might have been worth it financially. All the more reason to get another bull pen arm. 6 man rotation has no effect on those two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 31, 2011 -> 01:22 AM) Stupid, stupid tweet by Rosenthal. Yeah, everyone in baseball knows about the issues with Peavy and Humber in the 5th/6th innings now. But he had to get something helpful back for Jackson (before the deadline), more than just getting a measly Type B sandwich pick which JUST might impact our team 3-4 years from now, but probably never. You can't fault his aggressiveness here, just getting rid of Teahen alone might have been worth it financially. Thank you. The overreaction to that stupid tweet by some here and at WSI is ridiculous. Edited July 31, 2011 by South Side Fireworks Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulokis Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Any news? So we are all in still? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 QUOTE (bulokis @ Jul 31, 2011 -> 03:21 PM) Any news? So we are all in still? All in, yup. Managed to move $10 mil off the table when no one was looking, but still close enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulstar Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 So let me get this straight. We're all in still, but managed to weaken our rotation (not saying the Jackson trade was bad), and leave huge holes at 3B, CF, and DH. Baffling to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jul 31, 2011 -> 08:28 PM) So let me get this straight. We're all in still, but managed to weaken our rotation (not saying the Jackson trade was bad), and leave huge holes at 3B, CF, and DH. Baffling to me. Kenny got suckered into thinking this team had a chance after winning 2 of 3 against the Tigers. Those two wins were such fool's gold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 31, 2011 -> 02:28 PM) Kenny got suckered into thinking this team had a chance after winning 2 of 3 against the Tigers. Those two wins were such fool's gold. The sad thing is they should have swept the Tigers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Reading this article, it's kinda surprising to see Buehrle lacking confidence in the team. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,1882932.story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 It would be logical to assume that Danks and Buehrle have had enough of our offense the last couple of seasons to drive them both to other teams. Anyone would be driven to drink watching Beckham, Teahen and Rios for the past two seasons and now Dunn (and Pierre the first half) this year. It's infuriating for us watching or listening at home, imagine being in that clubhouse everyday? We've been dealing with the same exact issues for roughly two full seasons...or 3, if you want to count 2009's "lost season" and they have to be exasperated to see not a single change with our offensive philosophy or coaching staff. And pitching on eggshells probably hasn't helped Humber at all the last month. We just have no choice to hope and pray that Humber and Peavy can somehow turn things around, but reasons for optimism are dwindling at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 31, 2011 -> 09:28 PM) Kenny got suckered into thinking this team had a chance after winning 2 of 3 against the Tigers. Those two wins were such fool's gold. We actually won 4 of 6 vs. them in a short period of time, didn't we? As far as Mark's having no confidence, well, he's a smart veteran. He knows this offense won't magically turn around and guys like Rios have a way of deflating a whole team. Rios doesn't care and that doesn't cut it. Really, Oz and KW should bench him for good. He doesn't care. He's a cancer so to speak. Let DeAza play every day even if he hits .095. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Or Jordan Danks. Or Milledge. If you want Lastings Milledge over Rios to improve the morale in the clubhouse, you know you've got problems out the ying-yang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 If Dayan's thumb is healed, no excuse he's not brought up for the Yankee series. I'd stick his butt at third base since Oz ain't gonna bench Juan. I guess I'd even go for Juan in center at this point if Dayan could play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Our organization is in deep, deep trouble boys and girls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 (edited) "(Dunn's) a good guy, a very, very good guy. He's going through a tremendous slump," Thomas said. "He's never seen anything like this. No one else has. He's going to come out of it. "I told him the other day, 'It's OK to punch in a single every now and then. If they want to shift on you, punch the ball through the shortstop. There's nothing wrong with it.' " And Rios, who played with Thomas in Toronto? "Right now, he's fighting himself," Thomas said. "I would change that stance. We talked about it the other day. There's nothing wrong with going in the cage and messing around with it." So is there a hitting coach career in Thomas' future? "We'll see. One of these years ... you never know," he said. Wonder how Walker feels about this? I remember when they got Rios in 2009, Walker was very clear they weren't going to try anything to change him in mid-season...that the whole focus was going to be on the offseason and spring training 2010. He seems so wedded to that awful stance, but the hand position/s, stepping into the bucket, pulling his head, UGH. With that frame, he should be generating big-time power and yet now he's nothing more than a more inept version of Brian Anderson offensively with an even surlier attitude and sense of self-worth. Maybe that's what happens to anyone who thinks he deserves $12.5 million per season just for merely showing up to work each day. www.chicagotribune.com/sports Edited August 1, 2011 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 31, 2011 -> 11:36 PM) There's nothing wrong with going in the cage and messing around with it." I wonder how many guys actually go out of their way to work in the cages. Back in 2005 towards the end of the season Rowand got up early and spent a great deal of time in the cages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Wow Big Hurt can tell Rios' batting stance is moronic. I love the Big Hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Too bad Ozzie didn't have the balls to say "Hey Alex, how about you change your stance, or you'll never see the field again? Now get to work." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I've been championing Frank as hitting coach for awhile, but I doubt Kenny or Oz would ever allow that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 The lack of stuff happening at the trade deadline and the fact that the Sox lost 2 of 3 to the Red Sox really tempered my enthusiasm for this team. That and the fact that Ozzie is still putting Rios out there regardless of what KW said. The next four games will be very telling for this team. They have to split this series at a minimum. I don't have to say what this board will look like if the Yankees sweep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 And just like that, trade winds is closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjshoe04 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I can't wait to have some Big Hurt Beer. http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-07...ll-frank-thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Doesn't sound like Ozzie is planning on leaving Chicago soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Twitter-related topic split, please head there to rant about Oney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 31, 2011 -> 11:36 PM) "(Dunn's) a good guy, a very, very good guy. He's going through a tremendous slump," Thomas said. "He's never seen anything like this. No one else has. He's going to come out of it. "I told him the other day, 'It's OK to punch in a single every now and then. If they want to shift on you, punch the ball through the shortstop. There's nothing wrong with it.' " And Rios, who played with Thomas in Toronto? "Right now, he's fighting himself," Thomas said. "I would change that stance. We talked about it the other day. There's nothing wrong with going in the cage and messing around with it." So is there a hitting coach career in Thomas' future? "We'll see. One of these years ... you never know," he said. Wonder how Walker feels about this? I remember when they got Rios in 2009, Walker was very clear they weren't going to try anything to change him in mid-season...that the whole focus was going to be on the offseason and spring training 2010. He seems so wedded to that awful stance, but the hand position/s, stepping into the bucket, pulling his head, UGH. With that frame, he should be generating big-time power and yet now he's nothing more than a more inept version of Brian Anderson offensively with an even surlier attitude and sense of self-worth. Maybe that's what happens to anyone who thinks he deserves $12.5 million per season just for merely showing up to work each day. www.chicagotribune.com/sports One of the first things I thought when we got Rios was how JD benefited from Thomas' advice and became a HR hitter here. Yeah, the Big Hurt should be our hitting coach right now. I'd fully jump on the Fire Greg Walker bandwagon AND the Fire Ozzie bandwagon if I knew Frank was an option. You know he'd have Walt Hriniak assisting him in some capacity, and he had the job before, so it's not like Frank would be totally on his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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