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QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 28, 2011 -> 01:15 PM)
Humber is scheduled to face KC tomorrow. With this, I think that means they'll push his first start back to April 9. If they were intending on him starting the 5th game in KC, I doubt they would let him face the Royals tomorrow. They would probably have him pitch a AAA game.

 

Merkin keep on throwing the APRIL 6th date around when talking about Humber.. I realize it's not saying much, but worth noting.

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QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 28, 2011 -> 05:48 PM)
The Sox head to the airport tomorrow at 5 central. It'll be a bunch of kids playing tomorrow and there's a possible rainout on Wednesday, so today could be it for AB's until Friday afternoon.

 

If that doesn't get rained/snowed out..

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QUOTE (JPN366 @ Mar 29, 2011 -> 12:55 AM)
I've got my fingers crossed that Marquez is claimed, but sadly, I doubt it.

Why?

 

He's not on a big contract, and if no one claims him, he's a free agent. There's no real reason to expect him to decide to return to the sox.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 29, 2011 -> 08:35 AM)
Why?

 

He's not on a big contract, and if no one claims him, he's a free agent. There's no real reason to expect him to decide to return to the sox.

 

And if he does it's still not a big deal. We're responsible for providing Charlotte with bodies as well.

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QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Mar 29, 2011 -> 07:46 AM)
And if he does it's still not a big deal. We're responsible for providing Charlotte with bodies as well.

Crazy talk I know, but if he does pass through waivers and goes to Charlotte, I predict Marquez ends up looking pretty impressive there.

 

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Does anyone else think Joe Buck's call in the 2005 WS was one of the worst ever? Every time they replay it on that Score commercial, it's like nails on a chalkboard.

 

"Juan Uribe with a play, charging it, throwing it..."

 

So...freaking...LAZY!!!! What kind of description is that? "A guy, does a thing, and someone is out, I guess." My grandma could call that play better and she barely knows where she is! What a terrible broadcaster.

 

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QUOTE (ScottyDo @ Mar 29, 2011 -> 10:14 AM)
Does anyone else think Joe Buck's call in the 2005 WS was one of the worst ever? Every time they replay it on that Score commercial, it's like nails on a chalkboard.

 

"Juan Uribe with a play, charging it, throwing it..."

 

So...freaking...LAZY!!!! What kind of description is that? "A guy, does a thing, and someone is out, I guess." My grandma could call that play better and she barely knows where she is! What a terrible broadcaster.

 

/aside

 

That's the major criticism of Joe Buck. He shows no emotion whatsoever.

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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Mar 29, 2011 -> 11:56 AM)
That's the major criticism of Joe Buck. He shows no emotion whatsoever.

OTOH, you've got guys like Chris Berman, who screams "OH NO!" when Graffanino misses a ball.

 

It's nicer to have bland than it is to have a guy rooting against your team.

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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Mar 29, 2011 -> 12:56 PM)
That's the major criticism of Joe Buck. He shows no emotion whatsoever.

See, I don't think that's quite it because he has slobbery man-love for the Yankees/Red Sox/Cubs, so if it was one of them I think he might pee his pants.

 

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 29, 2011 -> 01:05 PM)
OTOH, you've got guys like Chris Berman, who screams "OH NO!" when Graffanino misses a ball.

 

It's nicer to have bland than it is to have a guy rooting against your team.

Okay you picked the one person I prefer Joe Buck to. One is the Hindenburg, the other is the Titanic.

 

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Mar 29, 2011 -> 01:09 PM)
I thought it was that he is a smug prick?

THIS!

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 29, 2011 -> 07:35 AM)
Why?

 

He's not on a big contract, and if no one claims him, he's a free agent. There's no real reason to expect him to decide to return to the sox.

 

Because he sucks and there are plenty of players to fill out Charlotte's roster.

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QUOTE (JPN366 @ Mar 29, 2011 -> 04:05 PM)
Because he sucks and there are plenty of players to fill out Charlotte's roster.

Well then you're going to be disappointing by this:

 

@jcrasnick Jerry Crasnick

#Whitesox pitcher Jeff Marquez has cleared waivers and is headed for Triple-A Charlotte, source says. #espnst

36 minutes ago via web

Shocking

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QUOTE (YASNY @ Mar 30, 2011 -> 12:26 AM)
Joe Buck can't even sniff his father's shoes, let alone walk in them. That said, it's almost impossible to be memorably good when you have the wretched Tim McCarver as your color commentator.

They all suck. Let's just teach Marv Albert some baseball. I love that guy.

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Other teams had worse OPS's out of the DH spot than us, so I was surprised to see this statistic about last year's team.

Chicago White Sox

They owned the league’s lowest WAR from designated hitters (-0.8) last season. If Adam Dunn’s WAR this season is somewhere around 3.4 (approximately what it would have been over the last six seasons if he didn’t have to play any defense), then he should greatly impact an offense that ranked seventh in runs in the American League in 2010.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 30, 2011 -> 09:55 AM)
Other teams had worse OPS's out of the DH spot than us, so I was surprised to see this statistic about last year's team.

 

That's because there's absolutely no way that's correct.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/play-ind...HW|2010|bat|AB|

 

What I imagine these writers did was look at Kotsay's fWAR - -0.7 - his bWAR - -0.9 - and found the average of those two to, you know, make everyone happy. They then just said that he was the full-time designated hitter and didn't consider anybody else who did DH. It's not entirely flawed, because Dunn is replacing most of those ABs, but they are absolutely incorrect in their analysis.

 

Beyond that, what's worse about them using simply WAR for DH is that it includes the fielding quotient of WAR too. Depending on who you use, Kotsay was worth -2 to -4 runs saved defensively last year, but DHs don't play the field, so that tends to work against one's argument.

 

What would have been better was to simply say "Mark Kotsay was awful but now they have Adam Dunn so the White Sox are going to be way better"

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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Mar 30, 2011 -> 02:18 PM)
That's because there's absolutely no way that's correct.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/play-ind...HW|2010|bat|AB|

 

What I imagine these writers did was look at Kotsay's fWAR - -0.7 - his bWAR - -0.9 - and found the average of those two to, you know, make everyone happy. They then just said that he was the full-time designated hitter and didn't consider anybody else who did DH. It's not entirely flawed, because Dunn is replacing most of those ABs, but they are absolutely incorrect in their analysis.

 

Beyond that, what's worse about them using simply WAR for DH is that it includes the fielding quotient of WAR too. Depending on who you use, Kotsay was worth -2 to -4 runs saved defensively last year, but DHs don't play the field, so that tends to work against one's argument.

 

What would have been better was to simply say "Mark Kotsay was awful but now they have Adam Dunn so the White Sox are going to be way better"

Thanks for figuring that out, I thoguht there was something wrong there.

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