2011 White Sox Catch-All Thread

[South Side Fireworks Man]

Let's see if Ozzie is a man of his word and keeps quiet if he leaves

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,1570904.story

He won't say anything bad about the White Sox. That's Oney's job.

[Dick Allen]

Let's see if Ozzie is a man of his word and keeps quiet if he leaves

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,1570904.story

Does Ozzie remember the crap he spewed the last time he left?

[Jordan4life_2007]

Let's see if Ozzie is a man of his word and keeps quiet if he leaves

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,1570904.story

 

Pretty refreshing to get Crede's take on the 2006 season. Pretty much everybody, players, coaches and management, give the same standard bulls*** response. "Our pitchers were tired" or "give the Twins credit" or whatever lame s*** you can come up with. Team was 57-31 at the break. They collapsed (and I don't mean the Soxtalk poster) down the stretch. Much like '05. They just didn't have a 15-game cushion to play with.

Edited September 14, 2011 by Jordan4life

[southsider2k5]

Let's see if Ozzie is a man of his word and keeps quiet if he leaves

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,1570904.story

 

George Carlin couldn't write a funnier comedy routine.

[greg775]

Let's see if Ozzie is a man of his word and keeps quiet if he leaves

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,1570904.story

 

I doubt he'd rip his father figure, Jerry.

He ought to tear into Kenny though. Might as well come clean about why the 2 couldn't stand each other.

I still think in the weird mind of egotistical baseball players and former players, Ozzie believes (which he was) a much better player than Kenny and can't stand the fact KW is his "boss." Even though KW has no power over Oz he technically is his "boss."

 

Does anybody in the know know anything about what Jerry is thinking?

That's where the scoop lies. You'd think the reporters would be able to get something from Jerry's confidants. People like to talk.

[southsider2k5]

Does Ozzie remember the crap he spewed the last time he left?

 

Forget 1994, just think of all of the s*** he has talked about the team since he has been here as manager.

[BigSqwert]

I doubt he'd rip his father figure, Jerry.

He ought to tear into Kenny though. Might as well come clean about why the 2 couldn't stand each other.

I still think in the weird mind of egotistical baseball players and former players, Ozzie believes (which he was) a much better player than Kenny and can't stand the fact KW is his "boss." Even though KW has no power over Oz he technically is his "boss."

 

Does anybody in the know know anything about what Jerry is thinking?

That's where the scoop lies. You'd think the reporters would be able to get something from Jerry's confidants. People like to talk.

 

That might be the oddest thing I've ever seen mentioned in the pale hose forum.

[greg775]

George Carlin couldn't write a funnier comedy routine.

 

I saw George Carlin in Vegas at the MGM and he was so f***ing funny.

Lot of people walked out when he was doing his take on suicide and his take on kids' names today. Lots of mommies who named their kids artsy names couldn't take it when George pointed out how dumb the names sound compared to Mike, Bob, Joe, etc.

 

He's a genius and it was two hours of bliss listening to his jokes and diatribes.

Edited September 14, 2011 by greg775

[greg775]

That might be the oddest thing I've ever seen mentioned in the pale hose forum.

 

You don't think Ozzie resents the fact KW is his boss?

Ozzie was a good baseball player; Kenny a nothing.

Ozzie has a huge ego like most baseball players do. KW did nothing on the field in Oz's eyes IMO.

[Jordan4life_2007]

You don't think Ozzie resents the fact KW is his boss?

Ozzie was a good baseball player; Kenny a nothing.

Ozzie has a huge ego like most baseball players do. KW did nothing on the field in Oz's eyes IMO.

 

Ozzie Guillen was terrible at baseball. Just think '11 Juan Pierre for 13 years straight.

[BigSqwert]

You don't think Ozzie resents the fact KW is his boss?

Ozzie was a good baseball player; Kenny a nothing.

Ozzie has a huge ego like most baseball players do. KW did nothing on the field in Oz's eyes IMO.

 

You argue with people in here who actually provide facts and statistics to back up their case yet all you ever provide are your subjective gut feelings and odd theories like this one which is based on nothing.

[greg775]

Ozzie Guillen was terrible at baseball. Just think '11 Juan Pierre for 13 years straight.

 

Comparing KW the player to Ozzie the player is like comparing Bee Bee Richard the player to Derek Jeter.

[fathom]

You don't think Ozzie resents the fact KW is his boss?

Ozzie was a good baseball player; Kenny a nothing.

Ozzie has a huge ego like most baseball players do. KW did nothing on the field in Oz's eyes IMO.

 

So if someone said Ozzie resents KW cause KW is Stanford educated and Ozzie never went to college, would you say that's a crazy assumption? I think both Ozzie and Kenny have lived very privileged lives and shouldn't be comparing themselves to others.

Edited September 14, 2011 by fathom

[greg775]

You argue with people in here who actually provide facts and statistics to back up their case yet all you ever provide are your subjective gut feelings and odd theories like this one which is based on nothing.

 

All I was saying is Ozzie should not rip the White Sox or Jerry in his Marlins' press conference, but he could at least explain his hatred of KW, which is what ultimately would be the reason he gets let go if he gets let go. What's wrong with that? And this is my take on why he basically is unwilling to listen to KW at all. Oz IMO thinks he's better than Kenny; I think that is a decent take.

[greg775]

So if someone said Ozzie resents KW cause KW is Stanford educated and Ozzie never went to college, would you say that's a crazy assumption? I think both Ozzie and Kenny have lived very privileged lives and shouldn't be comparing themselves to others.

 

I never thought of that one.

For all I know, KW thinks HE'S better than Ozzie because of the education thing. Never thought of it that way.

 

[southsideirish71]

You don't think Ozzie resents the fact KW is his boss?

Ozzie was a good baseball player; Kenny a nothing.

Ozzie has a huge ego like most baseball players do. KW did nothing on the field in Oz's eyes IMO.

 

You have jumped the shark.

 

 

 

[fathom]

All I was saying is Ozzie should not rip the White Sox or Jerry in his Marlins' press conference, but he could at least explain his hatred of KW, which is what ultimately would be the reason he gets let go if he gets let go. What's wrong with that? And this is my take on why he basically is unwilling to listen to KW at all. Oz IMO thinks he's better than Kenny; I think that is a decent take.

 

Ozzie needs to STFU when he goes elsewhere. The crap he said about Jenks was inexcusable, and trust me...no one really wants to know all the stuff that's gone on behind the scenes. If you think only reason Ozzie wouldn't be brought back is due to his relationship with Kenny Williams, then I have nothing left to say to you.

[Jordan4life_2007]

Comparing KW the player to Ozzie the player is like comparing Bee Bee Richard the player to Derek Jeter.

 

Um, what? lol. They both sucked.

[Dick Allen]

All I was saying is Ozzie should not rip the White Sox or Jerry in his Marlins' press conference, but he could at least explain his hatred of KW, which is what ultimately would be the reason he gets let go if he gets let go. What's wrong with that? And this is my take on why he basically is unwilling to listen to KW at all. Oz IMO thinks he's better than Kenny; I think that is a decent take.

That would be real classy, and we all know, Ozzie is nothing but classy.

[Quin]

That would be real classy, and we all know, Ozzie is nothing but classy.

[jenksycat]

Ozzie needs to STFU when he goes elsewhere. The crap he said about Jenks was inexcusable, and trust me...no one really wants to know all the stuff that's gone on behind the scenes. If you think only reason Ozzie wouldn't be brought back is due to his relationship with Kenny Williams, then I have nothing left to say to you.

 

That should be auto-included by the system whenever replying to greg

[MattZakrowski]

Honestly, before he had that gruesome leg injury Ozzie Guillen was one of the best defensive SS to ever play the game.

[southsider2k5]

Honestly, before he had that gruesome leg injury Ozzie Guillen was one of the best defensive SS to ever play the game.

 

He was an amazing defender. Outside of someone like Ozzie Smith, he was one of the best for sure.

[NorthSideSox72]

Honestly, before he had that gruesome leg injury Ozzie Guillen was one of the best defensive SS to ever play the game.

One of the best "ever" may be a stretch, but certainly during his time, the only guy better was the other Ozzie. That's something a lot of people don't see when they look at the stats, and assume Ozzie was bad at baseball. No, he was below average hitter, who played well above average defense at a critical position.

[BigSqwert]

You don't think Ozzie resents the fact KW is his boss?

Ozzie was a good baseball player; Kenny a nothing.

Ozzie has a huge ego like most baseball players do. KW did nothing on the field in Oz's eyes IMO.

 

After thinking about this for awhile, you might be on to something. And what if Greg Walker resents that Ozzie is his boss and is deliberately sabotaging our hitters? After all, Ozzie was a much better player than Walker.