Milkman delivers Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 09:02 PM) This is just crazy, as I said in the game thread, we treated Peavy like Terry Mulholland his rubber arm used to be treated. Just put his ass on the DL, it's not like he's been effective anyways. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,6203656.story That's a name I haven't heard in a coon's age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 11:25 PM) Hopefully talking to Jerry about his contract! Where is that from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 01:04 PM) Where is that from? Seriously. I want to know more about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 11, 2011 Author Share Posted July 11, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 01:04 PM) Where is that from? QUOTE (The Baconator @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 01:50 PM) Seriously. I want to know more about this. It is on his twitter page. http://twitter.com/#!/lomomarlins We he has gotten in trouble for coincidentally. Sounds familiar for some reason... http://content.usatoday.com/communities/da...e-down-tweets/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Not that it should surprise anyone, but Heyman is reporting the Sox are fielding calls on Jackson. I don't imagine they'd get much back for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 04:18 PM) Not that it should surprise anyone, but Heyman is reporting the Sox are fielding calls on Jackson. I don't imagine they'd get much back for him. At this point I'd take a 4th OF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 04:19 PM) At this point I'd take a 4th OF. He currently ranks as a type B free agent and anyone who trades for him will assuredly offer him arbitration. He should bring back something that is at least moderately interesting. Edited July 11, 2011 by DirtySox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 04:18 PM) Not that it should surprise anyone, but Heyman is reporting the Sox are fielding calls on Jackson. I don't imagine they'd get much back for him. The Jackson deals might be Swisher trades part 2 if we end up getting a bunch of nobodies back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 05:19 PM) At this point I'd take a 4th OF. Shouldn't we get a 3rd one first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 04:29 PM) Shouldn't we get a 3rd 2nd one first? fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Why would we trade Jackson for anything less than a quality prospect. It is highly likely that he wouldn't accept arbitration and the White Sox would thus get draft picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 04:38 PM) Why would we trade Jackson for anything less than a quality prospect. It is highly likely that he wouldn't accept arbitration and the White Sox would thus get draft picks. Draft pick, singular. Atleast at the current state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 05:39 PM) Draft pick, singular. Atleast at the current state. A sandwich pick is still a pretty valuable tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 03:45 PM) A sandwich pick is still a pretty valuable tool. It's high enough to get a quality player in a good draft. Jackson should get us something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlackSox8 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 04:29 PM) fixed Though I can see his statement being correct if you count Viciedo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 03:54 PM) It's high enough to get a quality player in a good draft. Jackson should get us something. I would love a sandwich pick next year for Jackson. Just hope Kenny does not screw it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 05:57 PM) I would love a sandwich pick next year for Jackson. Just hope Kenny does not screw it up. This is the risk going forward. We need to weigh if we can get a better player out of a trade than we can in the draft (obviously). The concern comes in with how much faith you put into our ability to draft the 'right' guy next year. It comes down to risk/reward- we might be able to get a low/medium-risk prospect or two for Jackson in a trade, or we risk another high pick that could end up being a bust. Very tough decision to make going forward, and I know I can't definitively say which is best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I find it hilarious that people think we'd get nothing for Jackson. SP is always expensive at the deadline and while Jackson isn't a world-beater, he can eat some innings and potentially have a dominating stretch like he did for us last year. The rental factor hurts, but like everyone has said the type B compensation helps make up for it. Someone will give you something of value for Jackson. We won't be getting a Hudson/Holmberg package, but I could easily see one desperate team giving us a top 100 prospect for him. What other SPs will be available? Which ones are far more valuable than Jackson? Like always, supply will drive up of a mediocre, yet talented pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 12, 2011 -> 12:19 AM) I find it hilarious that people think we'd get nothing for Jackson. SP is always expensive at the deadline and while Jackson isn't a world-beater, he can eat some innings and potentially have a dominating stretch like he did for us last year. The rental factor hurts, but like everyone has said the type B compensation helps make up for it. Someone will give you something of value for Jackson. We won't be getting a Hudson/Holmberg package, but I could easily see one desperate team giving us a top 100 prospect for him. What other SPs will be available? Which ones are far more valuable than Jackson? Like always, supply will drive up of a mediocre, yet talented pitcher. Maybe. He's definitely a load of blah if you ask me. He should copy Buehrle and work faster. At times he has good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 06:19 PM) I find it hilarious that people think we'd get nothing for Jackson. SP is always expensive at the deadline and while Jackson isn't a world-beater, he can eat some innings and potentially have a dominating stretch like he did for us last year. The rental factor hurts, but like everyone has said the type B compensation helps make up for it. Someone will give you something of value for Jackson. We won't be getting a Hudson/Holmberg package, but I could easily see one desperate team giving us a top 100 prospect for him. What other SPs will be available? Which ones are far more valuable than Jackson? Like always, supply will drive up of a mediocre, yet talented pitcher. Jackson isn't pitching like it was thought (by many, not just the Sox) he should. It was the rental factor I was thinking about when I proposed we couldn't get much for him. I'm not well versed in the Type A vs. Type B compensation stuff, but I see now that we should get something halfway decent. No matter what, though, it does look like the trade for him was a dud. Edited July 12, 2011 by pittshoganerkoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 12, 2011 Author Share Posted July 12, 2011 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 04:54 PM) It's high enough to get a quality player in a good draft. Jackson should get us something. Not to mention the market for starting pitching is supposed to be pretty bad this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 05:54 PM) It's high enough to get a quality player in a good draft. Jackson should get us something. What's the 2012 draft look like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 12, 2011 -> 08:09 AM) Not to mention the market for starting pitching is supposed to be pretty bad this year. Exactly Some GM will get nervous and overspend as there are plenty of teams in the race, especially in the NL. You package Jackson, Pierre and Bruney and you can get a nice deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jul 12, 2011 -> 04:20 PM) Exactly Some GM will get nervous and overspend as there are plenty of teams in the race, especially in the NL. You package Jackson, Pierre and Bruney and you can get a nice deal. That's a weird package. A mediocre starter, leftfielder at the end of his career who we want to run out of town who really doesn't bring much to the table, and just another guy in the bullpen. What do you expect back? Not to mention Jackson and Pierre make good money. I have a gut feeling we'll keep Jackson. Who knows if we can dump Rios, Pierre and Dunn. Highly doubtful. Edited July 12, 2011 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 12, 2011 -> 01:36 PM) That's a weird package. A mediocre starter, leftfielder at the end of his career who we want to run out of town who really doesn't bring much to the table, and just another guy in the bullpen. What do you expect back? Not to mention Jackson and Pierre make good money. I have a gut feeling we'll keep Jackson. Who knows if we can dump Rios, Pierre and Dunn. Highly doubtful. They fit needs that playoff teams want filled with veterans as oppossed to young kids they may be using at this time. Salaries do not mean much if there is playoff run at stake. There is no team taking Dunn or Rios unless the white sox are eating salary which they won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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