NorthSideSox72 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 01:43 PM) Nothing says optimal value like a 60 pitch limit by your $16-17 million dollar a year pitcher going into the second month of the season. Peavy won't sniff the White Sox roster until June at the absolute earliest. Dude seriosuly, you really are like that crazy guy in the picture someone posted a while back. "June at the absolute earliest"? Come back to earth, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 02:12 PM) Dude seriosuly, you really are like that crazy guy in the picture someone posted a while back. "June at the absolute earliest"? Come back to earth, man. Late April/Early May IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Just in case there wasn't enough gasoline on the fire... this from Chris Rongey's facebook feed. Ozzie Guillen JR June 1st over under and I would take the over. In my opinion ranger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 02:18 PM) Just in case there wasn't enough gasoline on the fire... this from Chris Rongey's facebook feed. We can do without the Ozzie offspring insights this season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 I have no idea what that Ozzie quote means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 01:43 PM) Nothing says optimal value like a 60 pitch limit by your $16-17 million dollar a year pitcher going into the second month of the season. Peavy won't sniff the White Sox roster until June at the absolute earliest. So wait, are you worried at all? You need to further clarify your stance. I'd put my money on pitching by May 1, just as was expected all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 02:26 PM) I have no idea what that Ozzie quote means. He doesn't think Peavy will pitch for the White Sox until after June 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Is it possible that his aches on Sunday were more flu related than pitching related? Why are we evaluating a guy while he's sick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 02:32 PM) He doesn't think Peavy will pitch for the White Sox until after June 1st. Ozzie Jr. that is. Not Ozzie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 01:13 PM) Ok, so that's just what his surgeon is guessing his body will be able to handle. That's a totally different thing from the team coming out and saying "60 pitch limit through May 1". This is the surgeon talking without seeing him or testing him either. This is also the same surgeon who said he would be out for a year after the surgery. He is an excellent surgeon but he also doesn't have the experience with the day to day rehab of the shoulder. Peavy will progress faster than that and he will be throwing more than 60 pitches in May. Peavy threw 60 pitches two weeks ago without much problem. If he stays at 60 for another month that means his strength hasn't improved in almost 6 weeks. This will show a significant problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 QUOTE (scenario @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 02:39 PM) Is it possible that his aches on Sunday were more flu related than pitching related? Why are we evaluating a guy while he's sick? It wasn't so much that the muscles were aching from the flu. It was more that because of the flu he hadn't throw in a week and the muscles were weak and that not being able to hold down solid food for a few days his whole body was weak. Not a good recipe for a continued progressing rehab and strengthening program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 06:47 PM) One step closer: After throwing today, Peavy says he feels drastically better and is encouraged. Could throw a bit more tomorrow .#whitesox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 The crazy variance in reporting is making my head spin. I give up. He pitches when he pitches, and he still has plenty of time to pitch well and remove the "bust" label people are hanging on him. If he pitches late and we go deep into the playoffs, he was officially a good signing. Just wait and see, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 QUOTE (ScottyDo @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 08:29 PM) Just wait and see, I suppose. No use playing any other game at this point. ;P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 01:44 PM) It's really going to be fun bumping this thread if Jake comes back and throws a shutout in late April/early May. It's really going to be fun bumping this post when he doesn't. Jake Harden or Rich Peavy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 QUOTE (ptatc @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 12:45 PM) It wasn't so much that the muscles were aching from the flu. It was more that because of the flu he hadn't throw in a week and the muscles were weak and that not being able to hold down solid food for a few days his whole body was weak. Not a good recipe for a continued progressing rehab and strengthening program. But his shoulder has been sore since his first outing, and every outing since. Wouldn't that point to a bigger problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 QUOTE (ScottyDo @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 03:29 PM) The crazy variance in reporting is making my head spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 03:53 PM) But his shoulder has been sore since his first outing, and every outing since. Wouldn't that point to a bigger problem? not really. He hadn't thrown in games in quite a while so it's expected that he was more sore. I base this mostly on the fact that he was throwing with good control and velocity. It wasn't until the start where he was sick that everything really dropped. In hindsight it was too much but until that point there was nothing really to point to that said, they needed to back off because the shoulder strength couldn't handle it. They'll go back to a decreased number of pitches and slowly build it up again just like any pitcher with a rotator cuff tendonitis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 03:53 PM) But his shoulder has been sore since his first outing, and every outing since. Wouldn't that point to a bigger problem? Take 6 months off from physical activity and then do 300 squats, let me know how that feels the next day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 QUOTE (ScottyDo @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 03:29 PM) The crazy variance in reporting is making my head spin. It's like a repeat of the LeBron madness this past summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 05:17 PM) It's like a repeat of the LeBron madness this past summer Really, no. It's like that in the sense that it's 1/1000th of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 06:19 PM) Really, no. It's like that in the sense that it's 1/1000th of it. I see some similarity in that nobody really knows what's going on, yet there is a new report every few minutes, all of it speculative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 QUOTE (ScottyDo @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 04:21 PM) I see some similarity in that nobody really knows what's going on, yet there is a new report every few minutes, all of it speculative. One is medical where no one truly knows. The other was a made up drama purposely arranged for publicity and money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 QUOTE (ptatc @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 05:39 PM) One is medical where no one truly knows. The other was a made up drama purposely arranged for publicity and money. One involves a few local reporters on a single team. The other got more debate than bombing Libya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 I don't care how much of a competitor Peavy is, or how hard he's trying to come back to be of value to this team. He's nothing but a drain on this team. Go f*** yourself, you glass piece of s***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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