Peavy had rotator cuff tendinitis

[dyuen]

I just want to know what more (of the things that have gone wrong) could they have done?

 

Did you 100% honestly think going into the season that the defense was going to be bad? Nope, same defense as last year with a lateral move to Morel and a more experienced Beckham.

 

Did you 100% honestly think going into the season the bullpen would be bad? Nope, losing Jenks was probably a positive. Sale looked legit, +1 year experience for Santos, Thornton is Thornton, and Crain.

 

 

I just don't get it, what are Oz and KW to do when the team plays VASTLY below their averages? No gm or manager in the world can fix that, I don't see the point in stressing out over it.

Thing is I don't really see any moves they can make for trades. Who are you going to replace? And next year the lineup is going to be the same except for Pierre. Everyone else is back.

[Milkman delivers]

SO WILL SCREAMING ABOUT THEM ON A RANDOM MESSAGE BOARD.

 

That won't help either, but we can't even talk about the problems the team is experiencing without people acting like we're saying that the world is coming to an end.

[Milkman delivers]

So...we trust the franchise to make the right selections, but only if those selections aren't KW or Oz. Got it.

 

You are absolutely right. We should just stick with what isn't working.

Edited April 20, 2011 by Milkman delivers

[witesoxfan]

SARCASM WILL DEFLECT ALL OF OUR OBVIOUS STRUGGLES AS A TEAM FOR BOTH THIS YEAR AND THE RECENT PAST

 

They're 7-10. Woe is me.

[witesoxfan]

That won't help either, but we can't even talk about the problems the team is experiencing without people acting like we're saying that the world is coming to an end.

 

I don't have a problem talking about the problems of this team, because there are problems with this team, even some I didn't envision it having.

 

Fact of the matter is, the board is seemingly split pretty equally into "it's too early to worry about this stuff" and "this team is toast, sell it off and cancel the season." There is absolutely no middle ground whatsoever.

 

So, if you want to talk about problems this team is having, that's absolutely fine, because I'll talk about the problems this team is having. But if you are going to even bring up the thought of this team selling parts off at this point in the year, I'm going to call you ridiculous or stupid or overreactive and then we're going to get even less done than we normally do on this site.

[Rowand44]

I don't have a problem talking about the problems of this team, because there are problems with this team, even some I didn't envision it having.

 

Fact of the matter is, the board is seemingly split pretty equally into "it's too early to worry about this stuff" and "this team is toast, sell it off and cancel the season." There is absolutely no middle ground whatsoever.

 

So, if you want to talk about problems this team is having, that's absolutely fine, because I'll talk about the problems this team is having. But if you are going to even bring up the thought of this team selling parts off at this point in the year, I'm going to call you ridiculous or stupid or overreactive and then we're going to get even less done than we normally do on this site.

I've been agreeing with you way too damn much lately. Well said once again.

 

[southsider2k5]

I don't have a problem talking about the problems of this team, because there are problems with this team, even some I didn't envision it having.

 

Fact of the matter is, the board is seemingly split pretty equally into "it's too early to worry about this stuff" and "this team is toast, sell it off and cancel the season." There is absolutely no middle ground whatsoever.

 

So, if you want to talk about problems this team is having, that's absolutely fine, because I'll talk about the problems this team is having. But if you are going to even bring up the thought of this team selling parts off at this point in the year, I'm going to call you ridiculous or stupid or overreactive and then we're going to get even less done than we normally do on this site.

 

That is pretty accurate if you ask me.

[greg775]

his is the first report of soreness around the lat, but the exam revealed no other abnormalities, the Sox said. Peavy will take anti-inflammatory medicine for six days and, if all goes well, will resume throwing Friday and get back to his routine. His next rehab start might be April 28.

 

From Sun Times story.

My god, he takes anti inflamm medicine for six days and maybe starts throwing Friday.

How can that be good news?

I'm not stressing cause I'm not counting on him pitching more than a start or two this season.

I'd just shut him down frankly until next year, unless all of this discomfort, etc., is totally "normal."

ptatc? any opinion? shut him down for the year?

[Milkman delivers]

I don't have a problem talking about the problems of this team, because there are problems with this team, even some I didn't envision it having.

 

Fact of the matter is, the board is seemingly split pretty equally into "it's too early to worry about this stuff" and "this team is toast, sell it off and cancel the season." There is absolutely no middle ground whatsoever.

 

So, if you want to talk about problems this team is having, that's absolutely fine, because I'll talk about the problems this team is having. But if you are going to even bring up the thought of this team selling parts off at this point in the year, I'm going to call you ridiculous or stupid or overreactive and then we're going to get even less done than we normally do on this site.

 

See, this is garbage. People have been saying it's too early to call it a season, but that a fire sale will happen if things continue this way. For some reason, a lot of people on this site can only see black or white. Nobody sees the grey of posts with two scenarios in it.

Edited April 20, 2011 by Milkman delivers

[witesoxfan]

See, this is garbage. People have been saying it's too early to call it a season, but that a fire sale will happen if things continue this way. For some reason, a lot of people on this site can only see black or white. Nobody sees the grey of posts with two scenarios in it.

 

Of course, if they continue to play at a 67 win pace, they absolutely will and should. The likelihood of them continuing at this pace is about as likely as J4L is to suggest I'm banging chicks all the time.

 

A week ago today, none of this talk would be happening. I don't mean that in the sense that "they've only had one bad week, they'll turn it around, rah rah rah!" I simply mean it in the sense that it only takes 1 bad week for vastly change the perception of an entire fan base.

 

If the Sox go 6-1 over their next 7 - extremely unlikely, I'll admit - and the Sox are 13-11, does the thought of a fire sale even come up on here? If they're .500 at the end of April, what is the perception on Soxtalk?

 

It's simply too early for the thought of a fire sale to even come up. There are like 100 games between now and the end of July. That is a lot of games. Let them play more than 17 games before talking about a fire sale.

[Balta1701]

From Sun Times story.

My god, he takes anti inflamm medicine for six days and maybe starts throwing Friday.

How can that be good news?

I'm not stressing cause I'm not counting on him pitching more than a start or two this season.

I'd just shut him down frankly until next year, unless all of this discomfort, etc., is totally "normal."

ptatc? any opinion? shut him down for the year?

There is absolutely no reason to even consider that shutting him down for the full year would be good for anything.

 

Unless there is actual underlying damage in his arm which would necessitate another surgery, then shutting him down would just give the muscles in his arm time to atrophy more.

[southsider2k5]

There is absolutely no reason to even consider that shutting him down for the full year would be good for anything.

 

Unless there is actual underlying damage in his arm which would necessitate another surgery, then shutting him down would just give the muscles in his arm time to atrophy more.

 

And we'd go through the exact same process again, only worse. Honestly that is the scenario we are looking at with any of the "OMG SHUT HIM DOWN" posts.

[Balta1701]

And we'd go through the exact same process again, only worse. Honestly that is the scenario we are looking at with any of the "OMG SHUT HIM DOWN" posts.

It's also worth noting that if there is any structural damage...it's not going to heal if you "Shut him down" for another year. The only way that would heal is surgery.

[The Ginger Kid]

I'm guessing that this is the proverbial "bump in the road" that his doc in Chicago warned about, not the shoulder inflammation, which by all accounts seemed to be unrelated to the detached lat. So good, got that out of the way. Now he can pitch through it and hopefully build up some strength.

 

Imagine if you were JP and started feeling a pain in that same surgically repaired spot while on the mound. Must have been pretty frightening. And just as reassuring to hear that there's nothing wrong with it. Honestly, I think this is great news.

[hi8is]

Imagine if you were JP and started feeling a pain in that same surgically repaired spot while on the mound. Must have been pretty frightening. And just as reassuring to hear that there's nothing wrong with it. Honestly, I think this is great news.

I sure hope so.

It'd be sweet if Jake comes back and kicks some major ass... wins consecutive Cy Young Awards... and ten years later, we find a new movie ala: Rudy is made with the title: Peavy.

 

haha

 

=P

[southsider2k5]

I'm guessing that this is the proverbial "bump in the road" that his doc in Chicago warned about, not the shoulder inflammation, which by all accounts seemed to be unrelated to the detached lat. So good, got that out of the way. Now he can pitch through it and hopefully build up some strength.

 

Imagine if you were JP and started feeling a pain in that same surgically repaired spot while on the mound. Must have been pretty frightening. And just as reassuring to hear that there's nothing wrong with it. Honestly, I think this is great news.

 

With this actually being the Lat, instead of just the shoulder, that makes good sense. That'd be a great question for someone to ask the team.

[Milkman delivers]

So wait, there are people that are happy that he's feeling discomfort because it's in his lat?

[hi8is]

So wait, there are people that are happy that he's feeling discomfort because it's in his lat?

I think that people are encouraged that the MRI came back with nothing and that he'll be back on the mound in 5 days.

We'll see... seems like thin ice to me - but hey, like Coop keeps saying - he is coming back from a major surgery.

 

Let's keep hoping for him to pull through.

[fathom]

So wait, there are people that are happy that he's feeling discomfort because it's in his lat?

 

It's Jake Peavy dude! He could be pissing blood, yet we'd get articles titled "Jake Peavy urinates, says blood in urine is just normal soreness" and people would be happy.

[BigSqwert]

It's Jake Peavy dude! He could be pissing blood, yet we'd get articles titled "Jake Peavy urinates, says blood in urine is just normal soreness" and people would be happy.

[Jordan4life_2007]

I have no idea why I can't stay out of this thread. But I really want Dan Haren. Even a C+ farm and he could've been had.

[ChiSox_Sonix]

For whatever it's worth, apparently the soreness was caused by scar tissue breaking up, which should have been expected at some point I'd think?

[Balta1701]

I have no idea why I can't stay out of this thread. But I really want Dan Haren. Even a C+ farm and he could've been had.

Again, no he couldn't have been. The D-Backs were in that stupid "we need to get a major league player" for him. The only team that was going to get Haren was a team that had a starter who had been in the majors for 2-3 years that they were willing to part with. It would have been giving up Danks or Floyd for the White Sox.

[southsider2k5]

I'm guessing that this is the proverbial "bump in the road" that his doc in Chicago warned about, not the shoulder inflammation, which by all accounts seemed to be unrelated to the detached lat. So good, got that out of the way. Now he can pitch through it and hopefully build up some strength.

 

Imagine if you were JP and started feeling a pain in that same surgically repaired spot while on the mound. Must have been pretty frightening. And just as reassuring to hear that there's nothing wrong with it. Honestly, I think this is great news.

 

 

For whatever it's worth, apparently the soreness was caused by scar tissue breaking up, which should have been expected at some point I'd think?

 

Hearing that makes Gingers post make a lot more sense to me. I think the shoulder stiffness thing was the outlier, and not the lat.

[fathom]

Cooper seemed frustrated with Peavy's ability to get going today on the radio. The good news is that the scar tissue broke up now instead of down the road, as that could have been a more significant setback if it took place when he was in the rotation. I'm thinking by end of May, he'll be in rotation and by mid June, hopefully at 100 pitches. I'd take that!