BigSqwert Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 11:53 AM) And yet, here were are, still waiting for this guy to throw a meaningful pitch for the Chicago White Sox. You're not allowed to be negative or critical about anything Sox related. Six straight years of failure (unless you count a pathetic playoff appearance in 2008) and we are supposed to blindly have faith and think this year will be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 08:29 AM) Never said there was anything wrong with thinking Rose > Paul. But my MJ/Reggie Miller analogy was spot on. I know it's been over a decade since we last had a superstar, but let's not act like the virgin geek going to his first strip club (in essence overrating Rose because it's been so long since we've had a player of his caliber). What on Earth are you arguing then? You admit Rose > Paul (yay, you DO have eyes!). The birth certificates do not lie... the player values are WAY different, yet I'm a homer? It makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 11:53 AM) And yet, here were are, still waiting for this guy to throw a meaningful pitch for the Chicago White Sox. This season. You are declaring setbacks before they even occur. Might as well wait a little bit before we decide he's not going to pitch this season. The guy had a serious surgery in the offseason and we're b****ing that he's not pitching 3 weeks into the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 11:42 AM) First it was a shoulder and everyone was sure he was done, now its his lat and everyone is sure he is done. How about waiting for some actual information? We've been waiting for Jake Peavy since mid-2009. Forget him. He's Rich Harden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 12:01 PM) What on Earth are you arguing then? You admit Rose > Paul (yay, you DO have eyes!). The birth certificates do not lie... the player values are WAY different, yet I'm a homer? It makes no sense. Please relegate discussion of winning Chicago sports teams to their proper venues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 12:04 PM) This season. You are declaring setbacks before they even occur. Might as well wait a little bit before we decide he's not going to pitch this season. The guy had a serious surgery in the offseason and we're b****ing that he's not pitching 3 weeks into the season. No matter how you spin it, leaving a rehab start with discomfort much earlier than planned is a setback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 12:05 PM) Please relegate discussion of winning Chicago sports teams to their proper venues. HE STARTED IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 12:06 PM) No matter how you spin it, leaving a rehab start with discomfort much earlier than planned is a setback. Are you sure he wasn't scheduled to only throw 15 pitches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 12:05 PM) Please relegate discussion of winning Chicago sports teams to their proper venues. Right. I'm all about the Bulls winning, but this is a Sox thread. I'm a little overloaded with the Bulls right now with the wall to wall discussions on both of the radio stations. I've waited all winter for Sox stuff and I don't need it tainted with Bull/Bears talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 12:08 PM) Are you sure he wasn't scheduled to only throw 15 pitches? And he was required to give up three runs. It's a confidence builder. Build him up, tear him down, and if there's time build him up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Have the White Sox reported anything on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 12:15 PM) Have the White Sox reported anything on this? He was supposed to be checked today. No new news at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 12:07 PM) HE STARTED IT! QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 12:09 PM) Right. I'm all about the Bulls winning, but this is a Sox thread. I'm a little overloaded with the Bulls right now with the wall to wall discussions on both of the radio stations. I've waited all winter for Sox stuff and I don't need it tainted with Bull/Bears talk. Well, I didn't mean it quite so seriously as Chet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyuen Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 12:04 PM) This season. You are declaring setbacks before they even occur. Might as well wait a little bit before we decide he's not going to pitch this season. The guy had a serious surgery in the offseason and we're b****ing that he's not pitching 3 weeks into the season. You can't have a setback when you haven't even returned yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 11:42 AM) First it was a shoulder and everyone was sure he was done, now its his lat and everyone is sure he is done. How about waiting for some actual information? Well those people aren't wrong as he still hasn't pitched. When you're talking about a pitcher who keeps hurting some area of his pitching arm, it's pretty impossible to be optimistic on the outlook of said pitcher. This team overall is going to be just fine but I have no confidence in saying the same about Jake Peavy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 12:27 PM) Well those people aren't wrong as he still hasn't pitched. When you're talking about a pitcher who keeps hurting some area of his pitching arm, it's pretty impossible to be optimistic on the outlook of said pitcher. This team overall is going to be just fine but I have no confidence in saying the same about Jake Peavy. I don't know, man. That really depends on your definition of fine. I can still see them winning the division, but I don't think even that will pull the type of attendance that the team needs to cover its payroll as the divisional race will likely be one between a bunch of gimps just hobbling to the finish line. They can take the division, but they'll get rolled in the playoffs like 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 QUOTE (docsox24 @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 01:22 PM) You can't have a setback when you haven't even returned yet. Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 11:38 AM) I don't know, man. That really depends on your definition of fine. I can still see them winning the division, but I don't think even that will pull the type of attendance that the team needs to cover its payroll as the divisional race will likely be one between a bunch of gimps just hobbling to the finish line. They can take the division, but they'll get rolled in the playoffs like 2008. Eh, we'll see. I still really like this team overall. The bullpen obviously needs to get their s*** together but there's a hell of a lot more talent on this roster than there was in 08, that's not even debatable. And maybe the biggest difference is that we have 4 pitchers(even with out Peavy) who can win us a game in a playoff series where we only had 3 in 08 and our 4th had to pitch game 1 and everyone knew that was an automatic loss going in. If we get in(huge IF obviously) we'll have a chance to make some noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyuen Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 12:59 PM) Huh? I am just saying that I don't consider it a setback when he hasn't even made much progress towards returning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 QUOTE (docsox24 @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 07:13 PM) I am just saying that I don't consider it a setback when he hasn't even made much progress towards returning. Him being at 70 pitches and having discomfort in the lat while building to 90 is a setback - and it's not a good sign - no matter how you take it. Let's see what the reports bring today... Bummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 White Sox have insurance on Peavy for reported around 70% of his contract? http://www.csnchicago.com/04/19/11/Kaplan-...487&qv=1#bp Still sucks to lose all those players in the trade, but at least we apparently won't be on the hook for all that money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 03:00 PM) White Sox have insurance on Peavy for reported around 70% of his contract? http://www.csnchicago.com/04/19/11/Kaplan-...487&qv=1#bp Still sucks to lose all those players in the trade, but at least we apparently won't be on the hook for all that money. The important detail left out is what is left out of that article. What does it take to trigger a claim? Missed starts? DL time? A specific minimum length of DL time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 04:11 PM) The important detail left out is what is left out of that article. What does it take to trigger a claim? Missed starts? DL time? A specific minimum length of DL time? Yeah, I was looking for that too. It seems like details of the insurance must be rather unknown, except for the figure of 70%. I wonder if it means if he only gets paid 30% of his money while he is on the DL. So maybe that means he can lose a total of 70% of his entire yearly salary if he misses the whole 2011 season? Not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gooch Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 QUOTE (docsox24 @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 01:13 PM) I am just saying that I don't consider it a setback when he hasn't even made much progress towards returning. What exactly is you definition of a setback? Peavy was continually increasing his pitches looking to return to the team. He felt discomfort and had to leave early, not making forward progress towards the desired pitch count. I would even say that his progress was "set back". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 (edited) Peavy to miss one start. MRI normal Edited April 19, 2011 by BigSqwert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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