caulfield12 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 6, 2011 -> 08:59 AM) Vizcaino was actually pretty decent that year I thought. I mean he wasn't exactly thrown in a lot of high leverage situations, but his ERA was 3.73. That includes the early 11-inning game vs. CLE where he took one for the team and threw 60 pitches, giving up 6 runs in under 3 innings. An impressive 3.06 ERA for the season if you subtract those 2 1/3 IP and 6 earnies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 The thing that really set '05 apart was that Hermy, Cotts, and Politte were nails. Few teams ever get that level of performance from three relievers. And when Hermy's back gave out, Jenks did a remarkable job of relieving him. And, as was mentioned earlier, Vizcaino had a decent year outside of a few bad outings. I'm sure that our bullpen won't be 2007-bad this year. But what troubles me is that only two members of our current bullpen have strong track records. Two more have looked good in the recent past, but they're more or less still wildcards at this point. And the rest of the 'pen pretty much sucks. As much as I like Sale and Santos over the long-term, I can easily see both struggling. We're going to need at least one other consistent reliever to complement Thornton and Crain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Mileage Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Bad Ohman. Ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 QUOTE (High Mileage @ Apr 6, 2011 -> 11:07 AM) Bad Ohman. Ha. Nicely done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 6, 2011 -> 10:07 AM) An impressive 3.06 ERA for the season if you subtract those 2 1/3 IP and 6 earnies. For the season though he put up a 1.47 WHIP. More baserunners per inning than he gave up any other season of his career. That ERA isn't telling the story there. He'd come in, get a couple outs, and leave 2 men on for Cotts to clean up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 6, 2011 -> 10:20 AM) For the season though he put up a 1.47 WHIP. More baserunners per inning than he gave up any other season of his career. That ERA isn't telling the story there. He'd come in, get a couple outs, and leave 2 men on for Cotts to clean up. He was better with Milwaukee, no doubt. But you'd have to expect the ERA to elevate a bit after three years in the relatively benign and often punchless NL Central. Before that, in the AL West, even more pitcher-friendly. I will agree he never showed that dominant slider, probably from overuse and overthrowing it for 3 years there and with OAK. And, for most of his post-Brewers career, he's been a pretty consistent 3.40-3.50 WHIP guy. Not much of a deviation. I would bet that ends up trumping what at least 3 of our main bullpen arms do this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 6, 2011 -> 12:57 PM) He was better with Milwaukee, no doubt. But you'd have to expect the ERA to elevate a bit after three years in the relatively benign and often punchless NL Central. Before that, in the AL West, even more pitcher-friendly. I will agree he never showed that dominant slider, probably from overuse and overthrowing it for 3 years there and with OAK. And, for most of his post-Brewers career, he's been a pretty consistent 3.40-3.50 WHIP guy. Not much of a deviation. I would bet that ends up trumping what at least 3 of our main bullpen arms do this season. Jesus. That is Jaime Navarro country! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 6, 2011 -> 12:58 PM) Jesus. That is Jaime Navarro country! Ooops, I was thinking about ERA when I was writing about WHIP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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