Quin Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Missouri won their tournament and gets a 2nd seed, not in Midwest. Marcus Denmon @MizzouMonster12 Moral of the story schedule tough non conference games lose em get a high seed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 11, 2012 -> 08:31 PM) Missouri won their tournament and gets a 2nd seed, not in Midwest. Marcus Denmon @MizzouMonster12 Moral of the story schedule tough non conference games lose em get a high seed They still didn't win the conference though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Game times are out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Mar 11, 2012 -> 08:45 PM) They still didn't win the conference though. That might hold weight, if Kansas was a 1. Missouri is the only 30 win team ever to not get a 1 seed. And if winning the conference outside the tournament is that important 1) Why have the tournament 2) Why isn't Washington in the bracket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 11, 2012 -> 09:39 PM) That might hold weight, if Kansas was a 1. Missouri is the only 30 win team ever to not get a 1 seed. And if winning the conference outside the tournament is that important 1) Why have the tournament 2) Why isn't Washington in the bracket? How many #1 seeds have not won their conference in the regular season? Honest question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 11, 2012 -> 08:39 PM) That might hold weight, if Kansas was a 1. Missouri is the only 30 win team ever to not get a 1 seed. And if winning the conference outside the tournament is that important 1) Why have the tournament The major conferences have the tournament for one reason. To make money. That's the only one. 2) Why isn't Washington in the bracket? Because the Pac12 sucked and there were more deserving teams. The Pac 12 didn't have a full round robin schedule. Washington won the conference, but lost to Cal at home who had a similar if not better resume. The "won the conference argument can't be made here because the conferences aren't equal. Edited March 12, 2012 by Rex Hudler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 danman, I get your angst over Missouri not getting the number one seed. I'm not a bracketologist but looking at those that make the predictions did not have Missouri on the one line. So I will assume they didn't belong and were a deserving #2 for the purposes of this post. What I don't get is everyone whining about Missouri getting the last 2 seed as #8 on the S curve. Who the hell cares. That position did them a favor. They ended up paired with the weakest #1 seed so despite their position on the S curve, it wasn't followed and they benefitted. Would you really have rather been opposite North Carolina just to get a possible Sweet Sixteeh spot in St. Louis than getting Michigan State in Phoenix? I understand the allure of playing near home, but I'd much rather potentially see Michigan St. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Rex, I was playing Devil's Advocate And Heads, how many 30 win teams haven't been the 1 seed? I can answer that. Zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 11, 2012 -> 10:23 PM) Rex, I was playing Devil's Advocate And Heads, how many 30 win teams haven't been the 1 seed? I can answer that. Zero. Only big 6 30 win team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 02:39 AM) Missouri is the only 30 win team ever to not get a 1 seed. Well that's not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 QUOTE (Rex Hudler @ Mar 11, 2012 -> 09:05 PM) danman, I get your angst over Missouri not getting the number one seed. I'm not a bracketologist but looking at those that make the predictions did not have Missouri on the one line. So I will assume they didn't belong and were a deserving #2 for the purposes of this post. What I don't get is everyone whining about Missouri getting the last 2 seed as #8 on the S curve. Who the hell cares. That position did them a favor. They ended up paired with the weakest #1 seed so despite their position on the S curve, it wasn't followed and they benefitted. Would you really have rather been opposite North Carolina just to get a possible Sweet Sixteeh spot in St. Louis than getting Michigan State in Phoenix? I understand the allure of playing near home, but I'd much rather potentially see Michigan St. Selfishly I wanted St. Louis because I would have gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 QUOTE (danman31 @ Mar 11, 2012 -> 10:18 PM) Selfishly I wanted St. Louis because I would have gone. That logic, I cannot argue with. I was hoping IU would be in Nashville for the same reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Mar 11, 2012 -> 10:58 PM) Well that's not true. They kept saying it on ESPN...? QUOTE (danman31 @ Mar 11, 2012 -> 11:18 PM) Selfishly I wanted St. Louis because I would have gone. This. I drive through St. Louis on the 23rd on my way back home. Wanted that so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 01:57 AM) They kept saying it on ESPN...? Well, Murray State this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 So you were willing to give up St. Louis for a #1 seed, but if you were a #2 you wanted to be in the midwest? If Missouri got a #1 seed, they would have most certainly gotten shipped to the west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 QUOTE (Rex Hudler @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 02:07 AM) So you were willing to give up St. Louis for a #1 seed, but if you were a #2 you wanted to be in the midwest? If Missouri got a #1 seed, they would have most certainly gotten shipped to the west. Yeah that was more arguing over semantics. As for the 30 win thing, the stat I heard (via a friend not ESPN) applied to major conferences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 01:57 AM) They kept saying it on ESPN...? This. I drive through St. Louis on the 23rd on my way back home. Wanted that so bad. First 30 win team from a bcs conference... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 How many #1 seeds have not won their conference in the regular season? Honest question. Not sure, but I know that conferences have gotten multiple #1 seeds several times before, so obviously in those cases there were #1 seeds that didn't win their conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Mar 11, 2012 -> 08:28 PM) Cal complaining about having the toughest region despite being in by far the easiest region. They have by far the hardest potential second round matchup. They can't be happy about having a team as talented as UConn right there. They could definitely bring them down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 QUOTE (Rex Hudler @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 02:07 AM) So you were willing to give up St. Louis for a #1 seed, but if you were a #2 you wanted to be in the midwest? If Missouri got a #1 seed, they would have most certainly gotten shipped to the west. I feel like Missouri is disrespected with the #2, after actually winning their Conference Tournament and of the top 8 only Michigan State did as well, but a #2 in St. Louis would have made up for it. QUOTE (danman31 @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 03:31 AM) Yeah that was more arguing over semantics. As for the 30 win thing, the stat I heard (via a friend not ESPN) applied to major conferences. Ok, that would make more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 03:24 PM) They have by far the hardest potential second round matchup. They can't be happy about having a team as talented as UConn right there. They could definitely bring them down. I would be far more worried with White and Iowa State than UCONN. Creighton and Memphis are the worst 8/9 games for number ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Apparently Mizzou needed to play someone in non-conference. They were one spot from a 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 10:38 PM) Apparently Mizzou needed to play someone in non-conference. They were one spot from a 3. I blame Illinois for sucking so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 QUOTE (danman31 @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 10:07 PM) I blame Illinois for sucking so much. ouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 QUOTE (danman31 @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 11:07 PM) I blame Illinois for sucking so much. We're probably one of the only teams the committee even recognized on there. Good thing we didn't pull that out, would have pushed you into the 4 range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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