danman31 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Paul didn't deserve that 3. He was dribbling backwards with 6 on the shot clock and then decides 'f it' and it goes. Must be nice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 QUOTE (danman31 @ Dec 28, 2011 -> 03:45 AM) Paul didn't deserve that 3. He was dribbling backwards with 6 on the shot clock and then decides 'f it' and it goes. Must be nice... He's a decent shooter when he's not fading away trying to show the scouts he can play in the NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 27, 2011 -> 08:47 PM) He's a decent shooter when he's not fading away trying to show the scouts he can play in the NBA. I don't care how good of a shooter he is. He showed no urgency with the shot clock winding down and then took a fairly poor shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 What an idiotic final play. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 QUOTE (Boogua @ Dec 28, 2011 -> 02:52 AM) What an idiotic final play. Wow. It was perfectly drawn up. If Sam makes that pass, this game is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 27, 2011 -> 08:54 PM) It was perfectly drawn up. If Sam makes that pass, this game is over. Yeah, but instead he takes a crazy looking three with time left on the clock. Idiotic. At least he's got confidence I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 QUOTE (danman31 @ Dec 27, 2011 -> 09:49 PM) I don't care how good of a shooter he is. He showed no urgency with the shot clock winding down and then took a fairly poor shot. Meh good guards are going to make that pretty often. Sampson was retreating and didn't contest it and Paul dribbled it to the 3 point line in rhythm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 (edited) Wow, bad non-call on what should have been a flagrant foul on Leonard. That gets called 99% of the time. He didn't mean to I'm sure, but the rule is any contact with elbow is a flagrant. Edited December 28, 2011 by fathom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 28, 2011 -> 04:00 AM) Wow, terrible non-call on what should have been a flagrant foul on Leonard. That gets called 99% of the time. He didn't mean to I'm sure, but the rule is any contact with elbow is a flagrant. It was after the play, and I don't think he even touched him to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 28, 2011 -> 03:03 AM) It was after the play, and I don't think he even touched him to be honest Only way you can't call a flagrant is if you rule that no contact was made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 27, 2011 -> 09:05 PM) Only way you can't call a flagrant is if you rule that no contact was made. It didn't look like there was contact. It was really hard to tell. I don't think they can make a game changing call like that when it was pretty inconclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 QUOTE (Boogua @ Dec 27, 2011 -> 09:06 PM) It didn't look like there was contact. It was really hard to tell. I don't think they can make a game changing call like that when it was pretty inconclusive. There was definitely contact, but I don't see how any rule should allow that to be flagrant. His elbow swung in sync with the ball. He wasn't flailing and there was no intent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 So why did Tubby not play Rodney Williams in the first OT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 QUOTE (danman31 @ Dec 28, 2011 -> 03:08 AM) There was definitely contact, but I don't see how any rule should allow that to be flagrant. His elbow swung in sync with the ball. He wasn't flailing and there was no intent. Doesn't matter, rule says any contact on an elbow to the head is automatic flagrant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 28, 2011 -> 03:05 AM) Only way you can't call a flagrant is if you rule that no contact was made. They changed the elbowing rules. Flagrant you need some sort of intent. I don't think there was that. It could have been intentional, but that's kind of iffy after the play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 28, 2011 -> 03:10 AM) They changed the elbowing rules. Flagrant you need some sort of intent. I don't think there was that. It could have been intentional, but that's kind of iffy after the play. Wait, since when they change that rule? Must have been this year. Good to know if true, even though I'm shocked they did with all this concussion stuff. Edited December 28, 2011 by fathom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Can I make the prediction that Jamie Dixon will leave Pitt for UCLA after this year? Pitt's program having some turmoil with Birch leaving and Gibbs to be done after this year, and UCLA fans are sick and tired of Howland. If Shabazz doesn't go to UCLA, I can't see Howland being brought back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Paul still plays like an idiot, however to say he is unskilled is ignorant. At least he's finally getting to the line instead of just chucking. If he could somehow limit the turnovers and otherwise dumb plays, he'd be damn good. Griffey with a solid 3 minutes tonight. We're going to become a poor man's Mizzou with 4 guards (or Egwu) running around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 28, 2011 -> 03:18 AM) Can I make the prediction that Jamie Dixon will leave Pitt for UCLA after this year? Pitt's program having some turmoil with Birch leaving and Gibbs to be done after this year, and UCLA fans are sick and tired of Howland. If Shabazz doesn't go to UCLA, I can't see Howland being brought back. I can see both gone, but for UCLA, I don't think you fire one guy and then hire his protege. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 IU opens in East Lansing tonight. It'd be tough game anyway, but V3 and Sheehey are probably out so I'm not too confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He_Gawn Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 QUOTE (farmteam @ Dec 28, 2011 -> 02:35 PM) IU opens in East Lansing tonight. It'd be tough game anyway, but V3 and Sheehey are probably out so I'm not too confident. Definitely. Sheehey is one of players we couldn't afford to lose... He'll be out for OSU too, which is huge. Jones has also been very good this year. Has played under control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) Jones started, but Sheehey is out (apparently he's in Florida resting/rehabbing his leg). Pritch looked like he was straight up on that last bucket, but I can't be mad because of the no call on Watford's travel (when he switched pivot feet) on what turned out to be a 3-point play. This game has been all big runs. MSU started hot, then it was IU, then IU opened the half with a 10-0 run, now MSU is on a 13-0 run. Wow Appling has hops. Edited December 29, 2011 by farmteam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 InSU and Creighton lose, that took a whole day for the Valley to be f***ed up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjshoe04 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 28, 2011 -> 09:04 PM) InSU and Creighton lose, that took a whole day for the Valley to be f***ed up... That's about how it goes in valley play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 28, 2011 -> 09:04 PM) InSU and Creighton lose, that took a whole day for the Valley to be f***ed up... Thought I saw Creighton was up 10 in the 2nd half and stopped following it. Maybe my eyes got crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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