greg775 Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 7, 2011 -> 04:16 PM) Jesus. We knew Ozzie would want to keep Lillibridge's grindy ass. Why do we care. Lastings is no good; neither in Lilly, but it's been pointed out that we can't have Lastings in the outfield. He can't catch a fly ball. What he did yesterday set the tone for a lousy game. First inning blunder. Lastings sucks. Time to move on. Who cares that we cut that stiff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 To everyone who keeps perpetuating the weird sterotype that Milledge is a problem-child because he high-fived a fan a few years ago after a catch and I guess because he had cornrows and dreadlocks, he did not have some "huge blow up with Ozzie". Ozzie said in an interview just now that telling Milledge he had been DFA'd was "one of the hardest conversations" he's had yet as a manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawksfan61 Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 7, 2011 -> 11:40 AM) I just really don't get this from a baseball perspective. The White Sox of the past 3-4 seasons have historically stunk against left-handers. Lastings had a .926 OPS against them last season, with a near .800 career mark in 500 at bats vs lefties. He was exactly what this team has craved and needed for quite some time off the bench, a lefty killer who can sub in in the outfield and at DH. It's just quite silly to release him in order to keep Brent freaking Lillibridge. OR all-in and sack up and release Teahen's worthless ass. He is a lefty killer who can DH. Milledge is horrendous in the OF and has absolutely no business playing there. Fact of the matter is if you send down Tiny Brent your only backup OF is Teahen, who is also awful but slightly less awful than Milledge (think of Teahen as leprosy and Milledge as the plague). We need someone who can play some OF defense to get CQ out of there late in games more than we need more punch off the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Apr 7, 2011 -> 10:51 AM) After 2 games we are going to make that call that Milledge is "really f***ing bad out there", and say the 2nd worst fielder in all the majors last year (Quentin), could actually be better out there? Give me a break. I saw enough of Milledge in spring training to know he is better than the 2 games he has played out there. He did the same thing in spring training, he just can't judge a fly ball to save his life. He either takes a step the wrong way or freezes on everything that's hit out there, yes, he's really f***in bad in the of. And I never said Quentin was better than anyone but so far this season he's been just fine out there. It could be the combination of him being healthy(keeping fingers crossed) and getting used to playing rf again or it could just be the fact that it's only been 5 games but so far he's made every play he's had to and he looks good in doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawksfan61 Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 People b****ing about Milledge being DFA instead of Teahen need to get with the program and accept that the guy isn't going anywhere. It makes no sense from a financial standpoint to eat 10 million over the next 2 years just to keep marginal all bat no glove player like Milledge. It just isn't going to happen, no team in baseball would eat 10 million dollars for the 25th or 26th man on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Apr 7, 2011 -> 01:05 PM) He did the same thing in spring training, he just can't judge a fly ball to save his life. He either takes a step the wrong way or freezes on everything that's hit out there, yes, he's really f***in bad in the of. And I never said Quentin was better than anyone but so far this season he's been just fine out there. It could be the combination of him being healthy(keeping fingers crossed) and getting used to playing rf again or it could just be the fact that it's only been 5 games but so far he's made every play he's had to and he looks good in doing so. Alright, well then I disagree. He was not really f***in bad in the of. He was just fine in spring training. It's funny that this team can own the 2nd worst fielder in the MLB last year, and fans can still be fooled into thinking he is better in the OF than someone who has been a historically above average LF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Apr 7, 2011 -> 01:14 PM) Alright, well then I disagree. He was not really f***in bad in the of. He was just fine in spring training. It's funny that this team can own the 2nd worst fielder in the MLB last year, and fans can still be fooled into thinking he is better in the OF than someone who has been a historically above average LF. It's funny how some people always twist arguments using things people don't actually say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawksfan61 Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Apr 7, 2011 -> 01:14 PM) Alright, well then I disagree. He was not really f***in bad in the of. He was just fine in spring training. It's funny that this team can own the 2nd worst fielder in the MLB last year, and fans can still be fooled into thinking he is better in the OF than someone who has been a historically above average LF. Did anyone say Milledge was better or worse than CQ in the field? When has Milledge been an above average LF? His defense has been an abomination for several years now. If he could play some defense he wouldn't have had to sign a minor league contract this offseason. Even if Milledge was better in the field than Quentin, who cares? Quentin has proven in the past that he is capable of murdering the ball. Milledge has proven he can be let go by both the Nationals and the Pirates. Edited April 7, 2011 by hawksfan61 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 QUOTE (hawksfan61 @ Apr 7, 2011 -> 12:04 PM) He is a lefty killer who can DH. Milledge is horrendous in the OF and has absolutely no business playing there. Fact of the matter is if you send down Tiny Brent your only backup OF is Teahen, who is also awful but slightly less awful than Milledge (think of Teahen as leprosy and Milledge as the plague). We need someone who can play some OF defense to get CQ out of there late in games more than we need more punch off the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 7, 2011 -> 12:04 PM) To everyone who keeps perpetuating the weird sterotype that Milledge is a problem-child because he high-fived a fan a few years ago after a catch and I guess because he had cornrows and dreadlocks, he did not have some "huge blow up with Ozzie". Ozzie said in an interview just now that telling Milledge he had been DFA'd was "one of the hardest conversations" he's had yet as a manager. Yeah for some reason he, Ozzie, and Kenny have had a pretty good relationship. He seems to respect the Sox organization, and it seems to have kept him in-line pretty well. Hopefully Ozzie just told him to go to Charlotte and keep your mouth shut because we really like you, and you will be the first call up if something happens. Honestly, the big thing that tells me there is something to the Milledge reputation is how quickly he has gone through team. He has moved around like Milton Bradley fast. Teams like Washington and Pittsburgh don't dump talents like that for no reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 QUOTE (hawksfan61 @ Apr 7, 2011 -> 01:21 PM) Did anyone say Milledge was better or worse than CQ in the field? When has Milledge been an above average LF? His defense has been an abomination for several years now. If he could play some defense he wouldn't have had to sign a minor league contract this offseason. Even if Milledge was better in the field than Quentin, who cares? Quentin has proven in the past that he is capable of murdering the ball. Milledge has proven he can be let go by both the Nationals and the Pirates. In 2010 with a 0.3 UZR In 2009 with a 2.4 UZR In 2006 with a 1.9 UZR 2007 w/ the Mets was the only year where he was below average in LF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Grey may hurt the club more than help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 QUOTE (Brian @ Apr 7, 2011 -> 11:35 AM) Grey may hurt the club more than help. If he is pitching in a situation where it is close, then you are right. Hopefully that would only be the case int he 17th inning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 7, 2011 -> 10:46 AM) I'm guessing it is a comination of Milledge having an option, most likely to not be claimed, doesn't play CF, isn't the best speedster, and we really need another pitcher. If he still has an option left they should be able to just send him down to the minors with DFA'ing him right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawksfan61 Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Apr 7, 2011 -> 01:33 PM) In 2010 with a 0.3 UZR In 2009 with a 2.4 UZR In 2006 with a 1.9 UZR 2007 w/ the Mets was the only year where he was below average in LF. What about 2007 and 2008? How many innings did he play in the OF? I don't put much stock into defensive metrics, defense is very hard to measure statistically. I know watching him play in Pittsburgh the last couple years he is not a good OF. How do the other defensive metrics other than UZR measure his defense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 With Humber, for practical intents and purposes, now in the rotation and out of the bullpen another pitcher was needed. If Dunn was available, MIlledge wouldn't have started yesterday nor Lillibridge today. For the bench role, Lillibridge fills it with better defense, more versatility and more speed. The Sox made the right decision based on the big picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawksfan61 Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 QUOTE (Brian @ Apr 7, 2011 -> 01:35 PM) Grey may hurt the club more than help. Hopefully he will only be used as cannon fodder when we are up big or down big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 That was quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Apr 7, 2011 -> 12:41 PM) If he still has an option left they should be able to just send him down to the minors with DFA'ing him right? Not if they need the 40 man roster spot for Grey. Milledge is being removed from the 40 man if he is DFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Apr 7, 2011 -> 08:21 AM) Him being "brutal" in 2 games in the field were still better than Teahen has been at any position. It's amazing how much security Teahen has just because of that mother f'n contract. He can hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whtsoxfan Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Don't know if Grey is the answer either. His numbers AREN'T impressive. But, I like the decision to see what Grey's got, since he's got MLB experience. Adding a long reliever/spot starter could be an ongoing issue for the 1st half of 2011, IMHO. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/8375 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Apr 7, 2011 -> 09:28 AM) And where are they in pitching? Again, I haven't "given up" based on anything, let alone a single roster move. My faith is just slowly going downhill. Besides, if it's too early to start losing faith in the team, why is it acceptable to dump Milledge after 2 games? Didn't know world series were won during the first week of the season. Either way, our record is solid and our team on paper and on the field looks pretty damn solid to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 7, 2011 -> 12:46 PM) Not if they need the 40 man roster spot for Grey. Milledge is being removed from the 40 man if he is DFA. Ah. Good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 7, 2011 -> 11:38 AM) Ok, how about this. The great Twins you love to fellate are -14 in run differential already while the White Sox are +6. You're thinking of J4L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 According to the Sox website, they have 38 players on the 40 man and that is with Gray and no Milledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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