G&T Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 04:17 PM) Maybe Polite as well now that I think about it. This was the guy that came to my mind. That whole bullpen had a mysteriously great year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paint it Black Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 If you actually believe the 2005 team had no cheaters you are one delusional human being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I'm sure that at least a few players were taking amphetamines (greenies). Baseball's a dirty sport. We may have cheated less than other teams, but we're not above it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeavyTime Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Definitely Rowand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFirebird Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 02:38 PM) I refuse to believe that A-row wasnt juicing at some point. A good friend of mine caddied for Chris Riley a few years back at the BMW and somehow the White Sox came up during the round and pretty much said that Rowand was a juicer for sure. I believe they were friends or something. I know completely random story..but your belief even without the obvious physical tells has some merit in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I remember saying that Rowand was an obvious juicer years ago and Steff tearing me a new one because there was just no way it was possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (BFirebird @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 11:49 PM) A good friend of mine caddied for Chris Riley a few years back at the BMW and somehow the White Sox came up during the round and pretty much said that Rowand was a juicer for sure. I believe they were friends or something. I know completely random story..but your belief even without the obvious physical tells has some merit in my book. They must have been real good friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigHurt Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Wow, I REALLY must have missed something... Pablo tested positive??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (TheBigHurt @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 02:38 AM) Wow, I REALLY must have missed something... Pablo tested positive??? http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20...sp&c_id=mlb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paint it Black Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 11:59 PM) I remember saying that Rowand was an obvious juicer years ago and Steff tearing me a new one because there was just no way it was possible. Well seeing as to easily 75% of the fanbase think you're some godless commie if you even hint at the fact that Aaron Rowand wasn't very good, this doesn't surprise me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 13, 2011 Author Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 07:21 AM) Well seeing as to easily 75% of the fanbase think you're some godless commie if you even hint at the fact that Aaron Rowand wasn't very good, this doesn't surprise me. godless commie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 08:58 AM) godless commie. yes? what do you want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 07:59 AM) yes? what do you want? I thought he was talking to Brian Anderson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 13, 2011 Author Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 08:01 AM) I thought he was talking to Brian Anderson Anderson is goldengod commie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 13, 2011 Author Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 07:59 AM) yes? what do you want? you to quit hating on Aaron Rowand. He crashes into stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (WCSox @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 10:26 PM) I'm sure that at least a few players were taking amphetamines (greenies). Baseball's a dirty sport. We may have cheated less than other teams, but we're not above it. That was baseball player's version of coffee for awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyho7476 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 The Red Sox titles are extremely tainted, since their main two hitters have been accused of roids. Yankees too with A-Rod. At least none of our major contributors from '05 have been caught or mentioned in any reports. Rowand is speculation at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (tonyho7476 @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 03:16 PM) The Red Sox titles are extremely tainted, since their main two hitters have been accused of roids. Yankees too with A-Rod. At least none of our major contributors from '05 have been caught or mentioned in any reports. Rowand is speculation at this point. I mean, from the bullpen people who've been mentioned as roiding...none of them seem to correlate with really good years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 13, 2011 Author Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 12:31 PM) I mean, from the bullpen people who've been mentioned as roiding...none of them seem to correlate with really good years. Plus guys in the pen have such volitile numbers from year to year anyway. Thing about it, giving up a grand slam adds half of a run to your era for an entire season. It is impossible to tell. Hitters power stats aren't as volitile in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Buffalo Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 09:59 PM) I remember saying that Rowand was an obvious juicer years ago and Steff tearing me a new one because there was just no way it was possible. Her defense of Rowand had something to do with him being a great guy with a great family. Solid stuff. I think I mentioned Manny Ramirez as a suspect in the same thread and was shouted down. Damn search feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 13, 2011 Author Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (Middle Buffalo @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 02:08 PM) Her defense of Rowand had something to do with him being a great guy with a great family. Solid stuff. I think I mentioned Manny Ramirez as a suspect in the same thread and was shouted down. Damn search feature. Use Google advanced search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Buffalo Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 OK - I went down the rabbit hole for a little while with the google advanced search. And now I forget what I read about the roids issue (was a pretty hot topic a few years ago), but I didn't make a Manny alegation that I was able to find. Milkman and Steff did have a little fight in regard to ARow. Started slow, ended with Steff calling Milkman a douche. I will have to remember not to use google adv search again as it would lead to hours of unproductivity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 11:59 PM) I remember saying that Rowand was an obvious juicer years ago and Steff tearing me a new one because there was just no way it was possible. I don't think he did, but it is certainly not out of the realm of possibilities. Everyone has to be looked at with a skeptical eye, and that's unfortunate. But that's what happens when steroids hits a game like it did baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (Middle Buffalo @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 02:36 PM) OK - I went down the rabbit hole for a little while with the google advanced search. And now I forget what I read about the roids issue (was a pretty hot topic a few years ago), but I didn't make a Manny alegation that I was able to find. Milkman and Steff did have a little fight in regard to ARow. Started slow, ended with Steff calling Milkman a douche. I will have to remember not to use google adv search again as it would lead to hours of unproductivity. Clearly I lost that argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 03:32 PM) I don't think he did, but it is certainly not out of the realm of possibilities. Everyone has to be looked at with a skeptical eye, and that's unfortunate. But that's what happens when steroids hits a game like it did baseball. I honestly think there's no way he didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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