Performing To Expectations

[Marty34]

Team was an 83 win team before season started. Terrible return on payroll investment from KW.

[fathom]

With Rios struggling, there's a lot of wasted payroll right now not contributing between him and Peavy. Sadly, seems like KW got suckered into bringing back AJP after his strong contract year finish. He's a zero tool player now.

[joejoesox]

With Rios struggling, there's a lot of wasted payroll right now not contributing between him and Peavy. Sadly, seems like KW got suckered into bringing back AJP after his strong contract year finish. He's a zero tool player now.

 

I think AJ gets too much credit for 'handling' this pitching staff. His constant "Pitch away away away" philosophy has burned us repeatedly. I actually laughed out loud when AJ set up away from Abreu and Humber threw it in on his hands. f*** you AJ, you're bad.

[Marty34]

Konerko, Pierre throw Dunn in there too. Worst thing that happened to the Sox was giving KW an open checkbook. Hudson for sure, and more than likely Gonzalez would still be here.

 

Danks

Floyd

Gonzalez

Hudson

Buehrle

 

Thornton and Richard in the bullpen, Sale starting in B'Ham.

[Tannerfan]

My God you people need to relax. It's April 15th. Calm down

[greg775]

My God you people need to relax. It's April 15th. Calm down

 

Tannerfan, the team is playing bad baseball. We have a right to be in mild panic mode.

We know it's early, but we also know good and bad baseball when we see it. Chicago fans are smart fans.

Yes the offense should be amazing this summer, which is a positive.

[ChiliIrishHammock24]

I didn't see any of this game, but I am not pissed off we lost. This game chalked up as a lost in the pitching match up anyway. But in the boxscore, I am very happy to see our bullpen pitched 4 scoreless innings. Gray looks like he was probably able to work out of trouble, and Santos with another very strong inning. Even Ohman did well somehow!

[Jerksticks]

I still think 10M more for Soriano would have been ALL IN THAT ASS. Oh wait, but Soriano sucks this year, Yanks are doomed.

 

I think our team looks pretty deep if you look at pretty much any other roster. Strap it DOWN he says.

[kapzk]

Tannerfan, the team is playing bad baseball. We have a right to be in mild panic mode.

We know it's early, but we also know good and bad baseball when we see it. Chicago fans are smart fans.

Yes the offense should be amazing this summer, which is a positive.

 

Yea the team isnt playing great but put it this way like how even Gordon mentioned after the game ... if this is the worst we are going to play then that's pretty good. We are going through some tough times with the Bullpen struggles and poor defense. But that willl all come around b/c the talent is definitely there.

[greg775]

Yea the team isnt playing great but put it this way like how even Gordon mentioned after the game ... if this is the worst we are going to play then that's pretty good. We are going through some tough times with the Bullpen struggles and poor defense. But that willl all come around b/c the talent is definitely there.

 

I hope Gordon commented on his s***ty bunt attempt.

Little things mean a lot late in games.

[Dick Allen]

Tannerfan, the team is playing bad baseball. We have a right to be in mild panic mode.

We know it's early, but we also know good and bad baseball when we see it. Chicago fans are smart fans.

Yes the offense should be amazing this summer, which is a positive.

Really? You were in total denial about Bobby Jenks' declining performance last year. The Sox for as how terrible they have played recently, and without Dunn for half the time and Peavy for the whole time, and dropping 5 flyballs, and having their new closer 0-4 in save opps and having their defensive specialist 3B on pace for 50 errors and the guy a lot of people thought should win a GG at SS on pace for about 40 errors, are 2 games out of first place,

 

This team should be fine, the only thing that concerns me is the total lack of fundamentals, which if you looked at it objectively, has been a trait of Ozzie Guillen led teams more often than not. Is that Ozzie's fault? I don't know Fielding in general, throwing to the wrong base, missing cutoff men, failing to get bunts down, failing to move men over, the list goes on and on. I think KW needs to tell Ozzie to make this weekend a bunt free weekend. They were 0 for 2 yesterday. Its just a waste. Ramirez goes up to try to bunt, he has no chance getting it down, its almost like he wants to get behind in the count on purpose to increase the degree of difficulty for his AB.

 

BTW, the Sox are currently on pace to win 87 games.

Edited April 16, 2011 by Dick Allen

[Harry Chappas]

Konerko, Pierre throw Dunn in there too. Worst thing that happened to the Sox was giving KW an open checkbook. Hudson for sure, and more than likely Gonzalez would still be here.

 

Danks

Floyd

Gonzalez

Hudson

Buehrle

 

Thornton and Richard in the bullpen, Sale starting in B'Ham.

 

You can't drop the bad and keep the good. A DFA'd McCarthy no way he sticks after last year Danks and Floyd are not here.

 

The rotation would be

Buerhle

Gonzalez

Hudson

Richard

???????

 

Not sure we are all too excited about that.

 

 

[Milkman delivers]

Really? You were in total denial about Bobby Jenks' declining performance last year. The Sox for as how terrible they have played recently, and without Dunn for half the time and Peavy for the whole time, and dropping 5 flyballs, and having their new closer 0-4 in save opps and having their defensive specialist 3B on pace for 50 errors and the guy a lot of people thought should win a GG at SS on pace for about 40 errors, are 2 games out of first place,

 

This team should be fine, the only thing that concerns me is the total lack of fundamentals, which if you looked at it objectively, has been a trait of Ozzie Guillen led teams more often than not. Is that Ozzie's fault? I don't know Fielding in general, throwing to the wrong base, missing cutoff men, failing to get bunts down, failing to move men over, the list goes on and on. I think KW needs to tell Ozzie to make this weekend a bunt free weekend. They were 0 for 2 yesterday. Its just a waste. Ramirez goes up to try to bunt, he has no chance getting it down, its almost like he wants to get behind in the count on purpose to increase the degree of difficulty for his AB.

 

BTW, the Sox are currently on pace to win 87 games.

 

The thing I hate most about Ozzie is his inability or refusal to learn. We see the team fail miserably over and over at the things you mentioned, but he continues to give up outs by having them continue to do those things. It's like we play each game with 24 outs to work with instead of 27 right from the get-go.

[LVSoxFan]

My God you people need to relax. It's April 15th. Calm down

 

+1

[chisoxt]

You can't drop the bad and keep the good. A DFA'd McCarthy no way he sticks after last year Danks and Floyd are not here.

 

The rotation would be

Buerhle

Gonzalez

Hudson

Richard

???????

 

Not sure we are all too excited about that.

You cannot squander the caliber of talent like Gonzalez, Richard and Hudson and expect to 'buy' your way out of it. Let's face it, in many of our fan's eyes, our GM is still playing with 'house money' as a reslt of the WS win. I also cringe when I hear the slobbering by fans and media types every time Kenny has some over-priced veteran in his un sight.

 

Take a look at the trend in basball, now. It's all about youth and player development. Even the big market temas are realizing this. Unfortuanely, Kenny still runs things like it's 15 years ago.

 

The current team is built to be entertaining. Unfortunately, it's just not built to win.

[greg775]

Really? You were in total denial about Bobby Jenks' declining performance last year. The Sox for as how terrible they have played recently, and without Dunn for half the time and Peavy for the whole time, and dropping 5 flyballs, and having their new closer 0-4 in save opps and having their defensive specialist 3B on pace for 50 errors and the guy a lot of people thought should win a GG at SS on pace for about 40 errors, are 2 games out of first place,

 

This team should be fine, the only thing that concerns me is the total lack of fundamentals, which if you looked at it objectively, has been a trait of Ozzie Guillen led teams more often than not. Is that Ozzie's fault? I don't know Fielding in general, throwing to the wrong base, missing cutoff men, failing to get bunts down, failing to move men over, the list goes on and on. I think KW needs to tell Ozzie to make this weekend a bunt free weekend. They were 0 for 2 yesterday. Its just a waste. Ramirez goes up to try to bunt, he has no chance getting it down, its almost like he wants to get behind in the count on purpose to increase the degree of difficulty for his AB.

 

BTW, the Sox are currently on pace to win 87 games.

 

The Sox currently are one game over .500 with an easy schedule and are having a blah homestand.

As far as Bobby, I don't want to go there. I do want to see our current closers actually get a save and not suck just about every time they hit the mound.

[Dick Allen]

The Sox currently are one game over .500 with an easy schedule and are having a blah homestand.

As far as Bobby, I don't want to go there. I do want to see our current closers actually get a save and not suck just about every time they hit the mound.

Yet they are above .500. Go back to the benchmark season of 2005. How did late August early September go? You don't want to go there about Bobby for obvious reasons, but blimpie got lit up last night, so I doubt he would have been the answer. The Sox, even with some problems that probably won't be problems the entire season are still right there. Panicking before taxes are due is beyond silly.

 

I would venture to guess there hasn't been a season in White Sox history where they didn't go 7-6 in some 13 game stretch during the season. If you are panicking now, find yourself a therapist.

Edited April 16, 2011 by Dick Allen

[greg775]

Yet they are above .500. Go back to the benchmark season of 2005. How did late August early September go? You don't want to go there about Bobby for obvious reasons, but blimpie got lit up last night, so I doubt he would have been the answer. The Sox, even with some problems that probably won't be problems the entire season are still right there. Panicking before taxes are due is beyond silly.

 

Yes, panicking is dumb because I think this offense will be amazing during June, July and August.

I just don't understand the blah start and some of the s***ty play again against mediocre competition.

The dropped fly balls, the overall bad D and the horrible relief pitching has been annoying.

Sox starting pitching combined with fierce offense should make for a good summer provided the relief corps and defense gets its head out of its ass.

[ScottyDo]

Holy crap, I leave for 3 days and I come back to panic mode? That's...

 

Okay so if you want to panic, do so because our talented bullpen has failed us. There's no room to complain about the offense or rotation, where most of the payroll is invested, because they've been good. Is this thread meant to suggest that they wish we'd spent more money on bullpen arms? If so, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY disagree. Signing bullpen arms to large money is risky business and is not as likely to give us a return as an expensive Rios or Dunn or even Peavy is. Seriously, just because people are justifiably upset with bullpen blowups does not give them carte blanche to rewrite history or bash whatever the he'll they please.

 

There is sooo much freaking time left. We were well below .500 last year, yet led the division in July last year. So wtf are people sh**ing their pants over? Call me back in a month if the issues are the same, Christ.

[allupons]

Holy crap, I leave for 3 days and I come back to panic mode? That's...

 

Okay so if you want to panic, do so because our talented bullpen has failed us. There's no room to complain about the offense or rotation, where most of the payroll is invested, because they've been good. Is this thread meant to suggest that they wish we'd spent more money on bullpen arms? If so, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY disagree. Signing bullpen arms to large money is risky business and is not as likely to give us a return as an expensive Rios or Dunn or even Peavy is. Seriously, just because people are justifiably upset with bullpen blowups does not give them carte blanche to rewrite history or bash whatever the he'll they please.

 

There is sooo much freaking time left. We were well below .500 last year, yet led the division in July last year. So wtf are people sh**ing their pants over? Call me back in a month if the issues are the same, Christ.

 

Apparently you didn't read the "Dunn is done" thread yet. It has become fashionable to make sweeping judgements about the season based on a few weeks, all while ignoring the many positives. Didn't you know?

 

I am looking forward to watching the Indians in the world series, as long as they can get past the royals.

Edited April 16, 2011 by allupons

[greg775]

Holy crap, I leave for 3 days and I come back to panic mode? That's...

 

Okay so if you want to panic, do so because our talented bullpen has failed us. There's no room to complain about the offense or rotation, where most of the payroll is invested, because they've been good. Is this thread meant to suggest that they wish we'd spent more money on bullpen arms? If so, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY disagree. Signing bullpen arms to large money is risky business and is not as likely to give us a return as an expensive Rios or Dunn or even Peavy is. Seriously, just because people are justifiably upset with bullpen blowups does not give them carte blanche to rewrite history or bash whatever the he'll they please.

 

There is sooo much freaking time left. We were well below .500 last year, yet led the division in July last year. So wtf are people sh**ing their pants over? Call me back in a month if the issues are the same, Christ.

 

Ending it with "Christ" suggests you are amazed and/or perturbed.

I think a lot of us are not in panic mode, we're just kind of pissed that the team is .500 through 14 games with some horrendously long road trips coming up.

As you and everybody else knows, winning six of 10 games on the road is good so until the stretch of road games is over, the Sox really are not going to have much of

a record to speak of, which means a s***ty start to the season.

No panic, just annoyance here.

[Dick Allen]

Ending it with "Christ" suggests you are amazed and/or perturbed.

I think a lot of us are not in panic mode, we're just kind of pissed that the team is .500 through 14 games with some horrendously long road trips coming up.

As you and everybody else knows, winning six of 10 games on the road is good so until the stretch of road games is over, the Sox really are not going to have much of

a record to speak of, which means a s***ty start to the season.

No panic, just annoyance here.

You were the one who said fans have a right to be in mild panic mode when the Sox were 7-6. Some food for thought, the Angels 8-5 start, which is exactly one game better than the 2011 White Sox at the same number of games, is their best start in 16 seasons. They have been playoff participants more often than most.

[knightni]

If you have Gio Gonzalez, you have Brian Anderson or Rob Mackowiak in CF for the year that Swisher was here.

 

Check that: Brian Anderson, Jerry Owens or Dewayne Wise in CF.

[flavum]

I've decided not to freak out ever during this season. It's either win or Ozzie and Kenny have to go.

 

This team could still run away with this division. I have no idea yet.

 

I'll be watching and hoping they win, but there's a part of me that wants to see what will happen if they don't make the playoffs.

 

 

 

[dpd9189]

I think it's too early to panic, we've only played 14 games so far. However this team does need to start playing to their capabilities because right now we look like a good team at best this year, not a WS contender though.