Balta1701 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 05:02 PM) Way to dance around it. You know the answer. The only reason why they wouldn't is that Avila is hitting quite well, and if they have both him and VMart as solid bats they wouldn't have an opening at DH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 04:04 PM) Like I said, I have no doubt he would do it if he thought it would win him a division. Hell after this weekend, we put them right back into the race, the odds are probably pretty good for it, in theory. So you're saying they were out of the race until this weekend, and these 3 games over Easter weekend put them back in the race and would be in the market for a DH hitting .150 and owed $50 million? Please don't ever tell anyone what they post is silly ever again. Edited April 24, 2011 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 05:11 PM) So you're saying they were out of the race until this weekend, and these 3 games over Easter weekend put them back in the race and would be in the market for a DH hitting .150 and owed $50 million? Please don't ever tell anyone what they post is silly ever again. IF that DH was Adam Dunn and a team had an opening, absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 04:11 PM) So you're saying they were out of the race until this weekend, and these 3 games over Easter weekend put them back in the race and would be in the market for a DH hitting .150 and owed $50 million? Please don't ever tell anyone what they post is silly ever again. So like I said in the beginning, you are totally based this on what he is hitting a week after coming back from surgery, instead of the 300+ homers he has in the last decade, or that there was actually plenty of interest in him in the off-season. Great. I don't think you have any room to say anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 04:12 PM) IF that DH was Adam Dunn and a team had an opening, absolutely. Again, I'm asking if anyone has an opening. Would Dombrowski take Dunn and his contract for nothing right now? Its a yes or no question. Not moderator gang up time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 04:14 PM) Again, I'm asking if anyone has an opening. Would Dombrowski take Dunn and his contract for nothing right now? Its a yes or no question. Not moderator gang up time. For nothing but his contract? 100% yes. The only reason he didn't end up there in the first place was because Dunn didn't want to go to Detroit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 05:14 PM) Again, I'm asking if anyone has an opening. Would Dombrowski take Dunn and his contract for nothing right now? Its a yes or no question. Not moderator gang up time. No he wouldn't...because he doesn't have a spot for him, and that's the only reason. If you go and break both of Avila's knees, he'd jump on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 04:13 PM) So like I said in the beginning, you are totally based this on what he is hitting a week after coming back from surgery, instead of the 300+ homers he has in the last decade, or that there was actually plenty of interest in him in the off-season. Great. I don't think you have any room to say anything. I'm basing it on the fact teams' rosters are set, Dunn gets paid a lot of money and is very limited defensively. If KW determined Morel couldn't handle 3B and Cashman offered him ARod for nothing, KW would say no. It doesn't mean ARod is worthless, but no one is going to take his contract, and I really doubt anyone would take Dunn's right now, and if they did, that GM probably would put his career on the line because if Dunn didn't hit............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 04:14 PM) For nothing but his contract? 100% yes. The only reason he didn't end up there in the first place was because Dunn didn't want to go to Detroit. Then they signed Victor Martinez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 04:18 PM) Then they signed Victor Martinez. That doesn't mean they would want him any less. The talk originally was that Detroit was going to sign both of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 04:19 PM) That doesn't mean they would want him any less. The talk originally was that Detroit was going to sign both of them. Yes it does, even your buddy Balta agrees. And if it went down as you say, which I doubt, why would you want someone who wants no part of playing for you? Edited April 24, 2011 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 04:22 PM) Yes it does, even your buddy Balta agrees. Right, because I agree with Balta all of the time. If you look at even just the AL between the DH's, 1B's and OF's even if you want to irrationally DQ Detroit, there are plenty of other teams that would be after Adam Dunn if they were in the race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 04:26 PM) Right, because I agree with Balta all of the time. If you look at even just the AL between the DH's, 1B's and OF's even if you want to irrationally DQ Detroit, there are plenty of other teams that would be after Adam Dunn if they were in the race. Name another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 04:28 PM) Name another. A very interesting name that popped up during the off-season was the Cubs. Apparently with the contracts they had coming off of the books in 2011, they were hoping to backload a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 04:33 PM) A very interesting name that popped up during the off-season was the Cubs. Apparently with the contracts they had coming off of the books in 2011, they were hoping to backload a deal. And then they signed Carlos Pena. Considering they may have their eyes on Pujols or Fielder Dunn isn't going there. Edited April 24, 2011 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 05:33 PM) A very interesting name that popped up during the off-season was the Cubs. Apparently with the contracts they had coming off of the books in 2011, they were hoping to backload a deal. At the end of this season, Boston, Texas, LAA, maybe the Yankees, if Seattle ever decides they have a competitive team, the Twins depending on what Thome does and what they want to do with Mauer, Oakland if they have a little cash to spend (Dunn is something of a Moneyball guy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 05:36 PM) And then they signed Carlos Pena. To a 1 year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 04:37 PM) To a 1 year deal. So they would pick up Dunn this year to sit on the bench? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 04:37 PM) At the end of this season, Boston, Texas, LAA, maybe the Yankees, if Seattle ever decides they have a competitive team, the Twins depending on what Thome does and what they want to do with Mauer, Oakland if they have a little cash to spend (Dunn is something of a Moneyball guy). Oakland was a team I saw having interest in him in the off-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 04:37 PM) At the end of this season, Boston, Texas, LAA, maybe the Yankees, if Seattle ever decides they have a competitive team, the Twins depending on what Thome does and what they want to do with Mauer, Oakland if they have a little cash to spend (Dunn is something of a Moneyball guy). Firesale is middle of this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 04:39 PM) Oakland was a team I saw having interest in him in the off-season. Then they signed Matsui. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 04:38 PM) So they would pick up Dunn this year to sit on the bench? A deal that would work perfectly for both teams if the Sox went into meltdown mode, Fukodome + prospect for Dunn. Sox get out of the contract and get a building block. Cubs get their thumper from the left side. Its not hard to envision at all. Its revenue nuetral for both teams this year, and Cubs get money in the coming years when they can afford it. It also still leaves them room if they want to go after their big guy next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 05:39 PM) Firesale is middle of this season. And middle of this season, whichever team is sorta in the race but has an opening or injury would be after him, and I'm not going to predict yet which of those teams will have an injury. If Hamilton were to go down for the rest of the year, then Texas could be desperate for a LH bat and know that they have money to spend and an opening at DH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 05:40 PM) Then they signed Matsui. Several weeks after the Sox signed Dunn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 04:39 PM) Firesale is middle of this season. If teams are in the races, there will be interest in Dunn. There is interest in him every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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