Jordan4life_2007 Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 02:20 PM) Pretty much, every GM will make a mistake, probably atleast once per season/offseason. It's the moves that they do to limit the amount of hurt that mistake does to the team that makes the GM great. It's like a hitter, they will slump at some point in the season, their success level tends to be how well they limit those slumps. Unless your name is Alex Anthopoulos. He can't spell mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 02:27 PM) Unless your name is Alex Anthopoulos. He can't spell mistake. Hahaha, he has done a phenomenal job thus far. He now needs to figure out how to win a title in that division. If he can do that, then AA will forever be regarded as a god. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 02:31 PM) Hahaha, he has done a phenomenal job thus far. He now needs to figure out how to win a title in that division. If he can do that, then AA will forever be regarded as a god. Or at least finish better than 4th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 02:32 PM) Or at least finish better than 4th. As if KW, your god, could do any better. He certainly couldn't set up a team to compete like the current Blue Jays are. They're coming. And they're coming for everyone soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 02:32 PM) Or at least finish better than 4th. AA has done some amazing things, many of his moves are more for the longer term (I know, you're an all in guy). That said, if after another 3 years and he hasn't progressed in the standings then of course he didn't keep up his track record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 02:36 PM) As if KW, your god, could do any better. He certainly couldn't set up a team to compete like the current Blue Jays are. They're coming. And they're coming for everyone soon. Kenny Williams isn't my god, but can we at least have AA's team finish in the top half of his division once before anointing him as such? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 02:36 PM) As if KW, your god, could do any better. He certainly couldn't set up a team to compete like the current Blue Jays are. They're coming. And they're coming for everyone soon. do us all a favor and let us know when they are here, Carnak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 01:37 PM) AA has done some amazing things, many of his moves are more for the longer term (I know, you're an all in guy). That said, if after another 3 years and he hasn't progressed in the standings then of course he didn't keep up his track record. He's shown the ability to clean up someone else's mess, and he's done it from a position where he had nothing to lose. Let's see him build up something himself now. Edited August 8, 2011 by iamshack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 02:33 PM) Yes. QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 02:41 PM) Either way, the Hudson/Jackson trade was bad. However, KW would then deserve credit for the Jackson/Teahen for Frasor/Stewart swap. QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 02:42 PM) There you go. Yes I get that, it was a bad trade and nothing changes that. But hypothetically, a couple years down the road, if Stewart ends up as good as or better than Hudson, how can you end up displeased? Because it's not as if you can say "well we could have had both" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 02:39 PM) Kenny Williams isn't my god, but can we at least have AA's team finish in the top half of his division once before anointing him as such? He has already clinched a berth in the 2013 ALCS vs. the Royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Hudson down 5-0 in the 1st, but that's understandable against the potent Astros offense. They do have Hunter Pence & Michael Bourn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 08:57 PM) Hudson down 5-0 in the 1st, but that's understandable against the potent Astros offense. They do have Hunter Pence & Michael Bourn. He had first inning troubles even in the minors. 3 of those 5 runs are unearned too. He may lose tonight, but it wouldn't surprise me if he shut them down for 5-6 innings now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 09:10 PM) He had first inning troubles even in the minors. 3 of those 5 runs are unearned too. He may lose tonight, but it wouldn't surprise me if he shut them down for 5-6 innings now. Yeah, I remember him having similar troubles early this season. He would give up a quick 3 spot in the 1st, then just start dealing. Who the f*** are these guys in the Astros lineup? J.B. Shuck? J.D. Martinez? I know Bourgeois was a Sox farmhand, he can run, but I'm not sure if he can hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 08:17 PM) Yeah, I remember him having similar troubles early this season. He would give up a quick 3 spot in the 1st, then just start dealing. Who the f*** are these guys in the Astros lineup? J.B. Shuck? J.D. Martinez? Reminds me of the made up minor league ballplayers in MVP '05. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 08:17 PM) Yeah, I remember him having similar troubles early this season. He would give up a quick 3 spot in the 1st, then just start dealing. Who the f*** are these guys in the Astros lineup? J.B. Shuck? J.D. Martinez? I know Bourgeois was a Sox farmhand, he can run, but I'm not sure if he can hit. JD Martinez is a guy they brought up from AA last week. 3 homers in his first 29 at bats. He took Hudson out opposite field and Hudson pouted like a baby for the rest of the inning. I was not impressed by Daniel last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 02:27 PM) Unless your name is Alex Anthopoulos. He can't spell mistake. I doubt he even knows how to spell his name (I don't) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Anthopoulos served as an advanced scout for the Greek National Baseball Team for the 2004 Summer Olympics. The Greek team finished in 7th place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 9, 2011 -> 09:50 AM) Anthopoulos served as an advanced scout for the Greek National Baseball Team for the 2004 Summer Olympics. The Greek team finished in 7th place. Nobody plays baseball in Greece. It's hard to scout in North America to begin with, now imagine scouting in a country where maybe a thousand people play the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 http://www.thestar.com/sports/baseball/article/705131 A little more insight on where Alex A. (sounds like someone on the Bachelorette) came from... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 9, 2011 -> 09:55 AM) Nobody plays baseball in Greece. It's hard to scout in North America to begin with, now imagine scouting in a country where maybe a thousand people play the sport. Wouldn't that make it much easier? Scouting 1,000 people instead of several million? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 9, 2011 -> 09:57 AM) Wouldn't that make it much easier? Scouting 1,000 people instead of several million? Maybe, but it also means that Greece team had almost no one to pull from to really make a decent team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I'd say calling him out for not fielding a winning olympic team makes about as much sense as saying he's the greatest because the Angels bailed him out of Vernon Wells's deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I really doubt he was roaming the Grecian countryside for hidden talent anyways. He was most likely combing through lists of known college and professional players trying to find some link to Greek descent and then trying to convince those players to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 9, 2011 -> 09:50 AM) Anthopoulos served as an advanced scout for the Greek National Baseball Team for the 2004 Summer Olympics. The Greek team finished in 7th place. So right about where the Jays finish in the AL East every year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I was joking about the Olympics thing. If the Greek team finished Top 3, it would have been more of an upset than the US over the Soviets in 1980 at Lake Placid. Or the Russians beating us in 1972 in basketball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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