fathom Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 No one wanted us to take Trout cause BA a few weeks earlier said he was a grinder in the Rowand mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 05:54 PM) The only reaction on this board to the Angels taking Trout was "hmph, the Angels sure like outfielders, don't they?" The majority in the draft thread seemed to want Rex Brothers, hard throwing lefty who went to Colorado a few picks later and has been in their minor league bullpens from day 1 of entering that org. Here's the thread. Not one person here complained about the Sox passing on Trout. Maybe I'm crazy, but I hold White Sox scouts to a higher standard than message board posters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 07:10 PM) Maybe I'm crazy, but I hold White Sox scouts to a higher standard than message board posters. And yet you have no problem saying that they made a mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 07:02 PM) No one wanted us to take Trout cause BA a few weeks earlier said he was a grinder in the Rowand mode. Oh, so drafting trout would have been a "Fire KW!" move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 06:13 PM) And yet you have no problem saying that they made a mistake. Correct. You would not trade Mitchell for Trout? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 07:16 PM) Correct. You would not trade Mitchell for Trout? I must admit, I'm impressed here. I wouldn't have expected that anyone would have predicted a catastrophic leg injury for Mitchell early in 2010. Somehow you must have, because you're giving management **** over the fact that they didn't. I'd really love to read the post if you can point me to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 06:25 PM) I must admit, I'm impressed here. I wouldn't have expected that anyone would have predicted a catastrophic leg injury for Mitchell early in 2010. Somehow you must have, because you're giving management **** over the fact that they didn't. I'd really love to read the post if you can point me to it. Ah the power of hind sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Drafting football players like KW, Borchard, and Fields has provided this organization with such great talent, I could see why they went back to that well. As a H.S. OF'er no way KW was going to take him with the first pick. The organization looks for quick fixes (college) in the first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 06:35 PM) Drafting football players like KW, Borchard, and Fields has provided this organization with such great talent, I could see why they went back to that well. As a H.S. OF'er no way KW was going to take him with the first pick. The organization looks for quick fixes (college) in the first round. Quick fixes? You can't be serious. No one thought of Fields or Borchard as a quick fix. They were both projects from the day they were drafted, much like HS players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 07:35 PM) Drafting football players like KW, Borchard, and Fields has provided this organization with such great talent, I could see why they went back to that well. As a H.S. OF'er no way KW was going to take him with the first pick. The organization looks for quick fixes (college) in the first round. Yeah. I wish I wish I wish I could come up with a single name of a collegiate football player who wound up succeeding for the Sox. I feel like there must be one. Somewhere. Someone must have played football then had moderate amounts of success for the Sox. And probably within the last 2 decades or so. There just has to be one. If only my mind could come up with a name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 06:37 PM) Yeah. I wish I wish I wish I could come up with a single name of a collegiate football player who wound up succeeding for the Sox. I feel like there must be one. Somewhere. Someone must have played football then had moderate amounts of success for the Sox. And probably within the last 2 decades or so. There just has to be one. If only my mind could come up with a name. But let's not bring Kenny Williams into this.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 25, 2011 -> 12:13 AM) Oh, so drafting trout would have been a "Fire KW!" move. I have no problem at all with the Mitchell pick (as you can tell by the thread). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 On the subject of drafting football players, last year the Rockies took two. Kyle Parker, QB at Clemson, is tearing it up at Ashville (SAL); another guy, Russell Wilson, not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Something hilarious about this image to me. I think it's the teeth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Bo Jackson worked out pretty good for the Sox as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 While it's great for the Angels that Trout is demolishing minor league pitching right now, unless they plan to cash in early and trade him for proven talent, he's really not affecting their big league club in any significant way right now. While it's certainly good when a draft pick performs well in the minor leagues, until they trade him for proven talent or he begins producing on a mlb field, they haven't gained much. Brandon Wood, anyone? Dallas McPherson? Let's not start proclaiming anyone a winner until the draft picks actually start impacting the MLB team in some way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatnom Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 (edited) I know this was something being discussed a few pages ago, but I'd just like to point out that every move in baseball is a crapshoot. Even if your picks fail, the amount you invest in him is much less than that of even a Teahen or Linebrink who "bust" quite frequently too. And, if we didn't want to break Selig's slot rules, we could at least try to redirect some of that money to signing players in Latin America etc. The idea, in my mind, is to strike a good balance between signing and re-signing major league talent versus drafting and developing minor league talent. That being said, unless somebody was on record saying they wanted to pick Trout over some of the others available, they really can't say anything bad about the Mitchell pick. He's certainly the type of player you would want the Sox to pick instead of their old safe picks, and neither has proven anything at the major league level yet. Edited April 25, 2011 by gatnom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Laumann's drafts haven't given me hope that he's the right guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Apr 25, 2011 -> 04:47 PM) Laumann's drafts haven't given me hope that he's the right guy. I like Beckham and Sale but everyone on Soxtalk could have come up with them. Poreda was used to get Peavy, but he's awful. Mitchell is a question mark at best. There's really nothing to get too excited about down on the farm right now. I'm with you, I'm not sold on the current regime until they actually develop talent, but in their defense it does take time. If Jordan Danks panned out, it would be the type Laumann could put a feather in his cap, but the obvious selections, I'm not giving him all that much credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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