soxfan72 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Same ol' same ol' once again..... Will Greg Walker ever be fired or do I have to put up with this crap the rest of my life? Slumps on the White Sox include 90% of the line up. They go on longer and deeper than any other team. They happen over and over, year after year. This team is an embarassment. When will people start being held accountable for the crap that is the White Sox the last X number of years? I done with this team for the year. They SUCK hard. They SUCK long. They SUCK all too often. And another thing, they can't catch a damn baseball either. And don't get me started on K. Williams, luckiest SOB ever and he jacked with the line up of a WS Championship team. That's it for now. SoxFan72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Lol. I miss Jan, Feb, March when I was the board demon. It's no fun anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 QUOTE (soxfan72 @ May 1, 2011 -> 11:56 AM) Same ol' same ol' once again..... Will Greg Walker ever be fired or do I have to put up with this crap the rest of my life? Slumps on the White Sox include 90% of the line up. They go on longer and deeper than any other team. They happen over and over, year after year. This team is an embarassment. When will people start being held accountable for the crap that is the White Sox the last X number of years? I done with this team for the year. They SUCK hard. They SUCK long. They SUCK all too often. And another thing, they can't catch a damn baseball either. And don't get me started on K. Williams, luckiest SOB ever and he jacked with the line up of a WS Championship team. That's it for now. SoxFan72 Then don't watch. No, you don't have to put up with being a White Sox fan. Go be a Giants fan. Then be a fan of who ever wins the World Series this year too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan72 Posted May 1, 2011 Author Share Posted May 1, 2011 QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ May 1, 2011 -> 12:07 PM) Then don't watch. No, you don't have to put up with being a White Sox fan. Go be a Giants fan. Then be a fan of who ever wins the World Series this year too. I don't watch. Too pathetic. This team is a death march at the plate. I go watch the local JUCO team instead. They play the game with energy. Plus, they can hit, throw and catch the ball too! Highest payroll in the division and last place... HERE WE COME. Wow, worst record (most losses) in the majors too. Woooooo Hoooooooo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 1, 2011 -> 11:59 AM) Lol. I miss Jan, Feb, March when I was the board demon. It's no fun anymore. J4L, I love you to death, but why do you keep saying this? Are you upset that you're not the center of attention, or are you trying to not so subtley make the point that all your warnings are becoming reality? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 QUOTE (iamshack @ May 1, 2011 -> 12:23 PM) J4L, I love you to death, but why do you keep saying this? Are you upset that you're not the center of attention, or are you trying to not so subtley make the point that all your warnings are becoming reality? Yeah, you're right. I'll shut up. It's just everybody got on me all off-season now look at this. I'm not saying I was right or anything because I really don't think this team is done. It's just strange how all it took was a lousy month for everybody to go berserk. But ill shut up about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Off subject, but the title is redundant. Don't fret, we have KW Jr. leading off for our AA team and hitting .190, problem solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 .500 by June 1. 19-11 from here to Boston. Do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 1, 2011 -> 11:59 AM) Lol. I miss Jan, Feb, March when I was the board demon. It's no fun anymore. I think it's awesome. People are finally coming over to the dark side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 QUOTE (soxfan72 @ May 1, 2011 -> 11:56 AM) Same ol' same ol' once again..... Will Greg Walker ever be fired or do I have to put up with this crap the rest of my life? Slumps on the White Sox include 90% of the line up. They go on longer and deeper than any other team. They happen over and over, year after year. This team is an embarassment. When will people start being held accountable for the crap that is the White Sox the last X number of years? I done with this team for the year. They SUCK hard. They SUCK long. They SUCK all too often. And another thing, they can't catch a damn baseball either. And don't get me started on K. Williams, luckiest SOB ever and he jacked with the line up of a WS Championship team. That's it for now. SoxFan72 Bye! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatnom Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Trash garbage is my least favorite kind of garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paint it Black Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 QUOTE (soxfan72 @ May 1, 2011 -> 11:56 AM) Will Greg Walker ever be fired or do I have to put up with this crap the rest of my life? Slumps on the White Sox include 90% of the line up. They go on longer and deeper than any other team. They happen over and over, year after year. This team is an embarassment. When will people start being held accountable for the crap that is the White Sox the last X number of years? Funny how they always seem to hit, year after year. And funny how they hit 200 homeruns, year after year. But yes, Fire Greg Walker...because....slumps and stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 QUOTE (Paint it Black @ May 1, 2011 -> 04:33 PM) Funny how they always seem to hit, year after year. And funny how they hit 200 homeruns, year after year. But yes, Fire Greg Walker...because....slumps and stuff. Forget all of the situational stuff. As long as they hit a buttload of homers, he must be doing a great job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paint it Black Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ May 1, 2011 -> 04:35 PM) Forget all of the situational stuff. As long as they hit a buttload of homers, he must be doing a great job. You only remember the situational stuff when they fail. Their numbers are pretty much in line with league averages. 2010: Above league averages (http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/year/2010) 2009: Slightly below (http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/year/2009) 2008: Above (http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/year/2008) 2010 With Runners on: Above Average (http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/year/2010/split/38) 2009: Below (http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/year/2009/split/38) 2008: Above (http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/year/2008/split/38) And besides, their a team built around the homerun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 QUOTE (Paint it Black @ May 1, 2011 -> 04:43 PM) You only remember the situational stuff when they fail. Their numbers are pretty much in line with league averages. 2010: Above league averages (http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/year/2010) 2009: Slightly below (http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/year/2009) 2008: Above (http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/year/2008) 2010 With Runners on: Above Average (http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/year/2010/split/38) 2009: Below (http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/year/2009/split/38) 2008: Above (http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/year/2008/split/38) And besides, their a team built around the homerun. You've got me there in the literal sense, but only one of those years are they near the top. With the "above average" ones, they are still right in the middle of the pack at 12/13. I suppose that makes sense, because that's how they usually finish as a team. Slightly better than .500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ May 1, 2011 -> 04:35 PM) Forget all of the situational stuff. As long as they hit a buttload of homers, he must be doing a great job. Let's not forget all of the situational stuff. Greg Walker became the hitting coach in 2003. Below is the team rank in average w/ RISP since he joined the Sox. Only 2 of 8 full seasons did they not finish in the top 13 in the league. One season was a disaster, but the other season they also happened to be the best team in baseball. They actually have been way above average in hitting with runners in scoring position since Walker became the hitting coach. 2003: 6th 2004: 2nd 2005: 22nd 2006: 1st 2007: 30th 2008: 8th 2009: 13th 2010: 3rd 2011: 9th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paint it Black Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ May 1, 2011 -> 04:48 PM) You've got me there in the literal sense, but only one of those years are they near the top. With the "above average" ones, they are still right in the middle of the pack at 12/13. I suppose that makes sense, because that's how they usually finish as a team. Slightly better than .500. If you go back to say 2007 the numbers fall off, well because team was complete s***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paint it Black Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 1, 2011 -> 04:52 PM) Let's not forget all of the situational stuff. Greg Walker became the hitting coach in 2003. Below is the team rank in average w/ RISP since he joined the Sox. Only 2 of 8 full seasons did they not finish in the top 13 in the league. One season was a disaster, but the other season they also happened to be the best team in baseball. They actually have been way above average in hitting with runners in scoring position since Walker became the hitting coach. 2003: 6th 2004: 2nd 2005: 22nd 2006: 1st 2007: 30th 2008: 8th 2009: 13th 2010: 3rd 2011: 9th Bad stats are bad. Using batting average for a team that almost never has a player who hits .300 in a season isn't really a good way to measure "clutch." Further, doesn't this kind of prove my point how hitting coaches don't do s*** for situational hitting? They won 99 games in 2005 with having the 22nd ranked ba RISP. In 2006 they were first and didn't make the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 It's to the point where they lose and I'm not even upset anymore... it's pretty bad that it's April and I'm already there. It's not so much what their record is so early in the season, it's how awful they're playing and I don't see any end in sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Message has to be sent, Walker has to go. May have seen this, but in the last 43 years only the '87 Tigers won their division after being as many as 9 out after April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 QUOTE (lostfan @ May 1, 2011 -> 05:04 PM) It's to the point where they lose and I'm not even upset anymore... it's pretty bad that it's April and I'm already there. It's not so much what their record is so early in the season, it's how awful they're playing and I don't see any end in sight. Well, it's May now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Some late innings signs of life today, which is nice to see. Get to 4 games out and at .500 or better by the end of the month. I'm still in b****es. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ May 1, 2011 -> 05:14 PM) Some late innings signs of life today, which is nice to see. Get to 4 games out and at .500 or better by the end of the month. I'm still in b****es. That would require a 19-9 May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 QUOTE (Paint it Black @ May 1, 2011 -> 04:59 PM) Bad stats are bad. Using batting average for a team that almost never has a player who hits .300 in a season isn't really a good way to measure "clutch." Further, doesn't this kind of prove my point how hitting coaches don't do s*** for situational hitting? They won 99 games in 2005 with having the 22nd ranked ba RISP. In 2006 they were first and didn't make the playoffs. I agree. I was just responding to the post that was criticizing Walker for their situational hitting. I think hitting coaches have very little effect on the team's results, but want Walker fired just to send a message to the players. I just hate when people say that the Sox never hit with runners on, when in fact the stats show that they do. And in 2006, they still won 90 games and fell apart cause of a tired pitching staff, so its hard to compare to 2005. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 QUOTE (lostfan @ May 1, 2011 -> 11:04 PM) It's to the point where they lose and I'm not even upset anymore... it's pretty bad that it's April and I'm already there. It's not so much what their record is so early in the season, it's how awful they're playing and I don't see any end in sight. I don't get mad either because I expect us to lose every single game. That is amazing it's gotten to this point, but s***, even if we ever lead again late, our bullpen will probably blow that game. Remember Lilly's 2 great catches in NY to save yet another loss? This team has lost five in a row since winning the first two in NY?? That's insane. I mean loss after loss after loss. This team is total, utter garbage and I also see no end in sight. Sox just go out there and lose almost every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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