southsider2k5 Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 QUOTE (joeynach @ May 2, 2011 -> 11:20 PM) Also check this out. PitchFX data in Fangraphs shows that Thornton is featuring a ChangeUp 9.8% of the time after throwing 0 change's in 2009 or 2010. How can that be. Did Thronton really try and come out and feature a change? Or is this an error in the way the PitchFX algorithms determine pitch type from the data and its actually his slider? http://www.fangraphs.com/pitchfx.aspx?play...&position=P I think Matt listened to all of the people who said a one pitch pitcher couldn't close, and made changes he didn't need to make. Feature the fastball, and go back to being Matt Thornton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 QUOTE (Pale Sox @ May 3, 2011 -> 12:30 AM) Danks' FB is down 0.3mph Floyd's is down 1.8mph Buehrle's is down 0.5mph Santos is down 1.2mph Ohman is down 0.7mph Jackson is down 0.8mph Crain is down 0.9mph Notice a trend? Fastball velocities are almost always down at the start of the season. That's not the problem. I take it those numbers are from season end last year, and not YTD vs YTD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 It's weird, as lefties have a higher batting average against Sale but he's already given up 3 homers in nearly 8 innings against righties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 3, 2011 -> 09:03 AM) I think Matt listened to all of the people who said a one pitch pitcher couldn't close, and made changes he didn't need to make. Feature the fastball, and go back to being Matt Thornton. He's overthrowing at this point. I think it wil come back as he relaxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (greg775 @ May 3, 2011 -> 05:07 AM) I do agree with you on the eye test part. Sale and Thornton do not pass the eye test at this point of the season. It's no fun watching either guy pitch. How bout they take the approach of throwing strikes maybe? Maybe rushing Sale was a mistake, or they should get another lefty reliever and groom Sale now to be a starter? Sales has been less than what I was expecting this year and Thornton too for that matter. But, Matt is the veteran Edited May 3, 2011 by elrockinMT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ May 3, 2011 -> 10:26 AM) Maybe rushing Sale was a mistake, or they should get another lefty reliever and groom Sale now to be a starter? Sales has been less than what I was expecting this year and Thornton too for that matter. But, Matt is the veteran There was no way Sale didn't break camp with the Sox after the way he finished last year. He seems to be having repeatability and arm slot problems, which shouldn't be a big surprise with him working out of the pen for the first time in his life starting last year, and not having a whole lot of innings under his belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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