Quin Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Dayan walked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 9, 2011 -> 01:54 AM) What the hell are we doing with Upchurch? Is there a reason we're like switching him off between a starter and reliever right now? Freakin odd. I'm not sure. I mean, he didn't do that great as a starter, but he also didn't do bad enough to abandon, especially at age 20. I'd like to see him back in to a starting spot, or at least in Winstom-Salem, but I think his dominance in the bullpen may keep him there. But a 10.1 K/9 and a 0.9 BB/9 is godlike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ May 9, 2011 -> 01:39 AM) Dayan walked. I'll give him some credit...he's starting to take the occasional walk while he's struggling. That's positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 QUOTE (DirtySox @ May 8, 2011 -> 04:34 PM) Relax guy. The draft is soon. We have a whole $2.5 million allotted this year with the absence of a first round pick. Is that $2.5 million figure valid? If so, it makes the money spent on Manny look even more foolish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (oldsox @ May 9, 2011 -> 09:46 AM) Is that $2.5 million figure valid? If so, it makes the money spent on Manny look even more foolish. No. I have no idea what they are going to spend. I expect a similar amount to the past few years or less justified by not having to spend on a 1st rounder. Many teams are preparing to dump significant money into signings this year because of how deep the class is, and the possibility that this will be the last draft without hard slotting. There is almost zero chance the Sox are one of these teams. Edited May 9, 2011 by DirtySox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 QUOTE (DirtySox @ May 9, 2011 -> 12:03 PM) No. I have no idea what they are going to spend. I expect a similar amount to the past few years or less justified by not having to spend on a 1st rounder. Many teams are preparing to dump significant money into signings this year because of how deep the class is, and the possibility that this will be the last draft without hard slotting. There is almost zero chance the Sox are one of these teams. What on Earth will people complain about if MLB goes to hard slotting and an international draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 9, 2011 -> 11:47 AM) What on Earth will people complain about if MLB goes to hard slotting and an international draft? We will then be shifting gears to the inadequacies in player development! Seriously though, not a fan of hard-slotting at all. It will really hurt many of the small market teams who have been and need to invest heavily in home grown players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 QUOTE (DirtySox @ May 9, 2011 -> 12:54 PM) We will then be shifting gears to the inadequacies in player development! Seriously though, not a fan of hard-slotting at all. It will really hurt many of the small market teams who have been and need to invest heavily in home grown players. The small market teams are the ones at a real disadvantage without hard slotting, because they have to choose whether to spend money on the top level team or on the draft, and they also have much less leverage when trying to negoatiate an extension with a guy that does come up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 9, 2011 -> 11:47 AM) What on Earth will people complain about if MLB goes to hard slotting and an international draft? Give me that and the right to trade draft picks, and my list of complaints narrows to a real Olympic style drug testing program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 9, 2011 -> 01:15 PM) Give me that and the right to trade draft picks, and my list of complaints narrows to a real Olympic style drug testing program. So you don't buy MLB's contention that being unable to trade picks helps the small market teams because they're forced to actually draft someone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I never understood why MLB did not insist that foreign players also go through the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 9, 2011 -> 12:18 PM) So you don't buy MLB's contention that being unable to trade picks helps the small market teams because they're forced to actually draft someone? Not without things like salary floors and hard slotting NBA style. You just draft someone cheap instead of the best player on the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Ball Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 9, 2011 -> 05:59 PM) The small market teams are the ones at a real disadvantage without hard slotting, because they have to choose whether to spend money on the top level team or on the draft, and they also have much less leverage when trying to negoatiate an extension with a guy that does come up. I don't agree. The top spending teams in draft $ will only spend around $10m, or $4-5m above the average spending team. Heck even the top spending team over the last 3 years (Pirates) only spent $18m ($6m/year) more than the bottom spending team (our Sox). $6m a year will buy you all of what, 1.5 WAR on the open market? Not exactly the difference between being a basement dweller and playoff contender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 KW Jr. has 17 K's in 48 at bats. He's leading off for the Barons because he's that energy guy that gets the offense going. Bobby Magallanes must've thrown up after he said that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 QUOTE (JPN366 @ May 9, 2011 -> 01:37 PM) KW Jr. has 17 K's in 48 at bats. He's leading off for the Barons because he's that energy guy that gets the offense going. Bobby Magallanes must've thrown up after he said that. :Yawn: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ May 9, 2011 -> 12:51 PM) :Yawn: I'll shall b***h about it as much as I want, I paid to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 QUOTE (JPN366 @ May 9, 2011 -> 01:53 PM) I'll shall b***h about it as much as I want, I paid to see it. And apparently even when they don't play he'll get brought up. Awesome!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ May 9, 2011 -> 01:05 PM) And apparently even when they don't play he'll get brought up. Awesome!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 QUOTE (DirtySox @ May 9, 2011 -> 11:03 AM) No. I have no idea what they are going to spend. I expect a similar amount to the past few years or less justified by not having to spend on a 1st rounder. Many teams are preparing to dump significant money into signings this year because of how deep the class is, and the possibility that this will be the last draft without hard slotting. There is almost zero chance the Sox are one of these teams. The double whammy of them not spending money and the Wilder fiasco has put the organization in a precarious situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 QUOTE (JPN366 @ May 9, 2011 -> 12:53 PM) I'll shall b***h about it as much as I want, I paid to see it. More wind generated to contribute to a natural disaster. Keep b****ing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 9, 2011 -> 07:55 PM) The double whammy of them not spending money and the Wilder fiasco has put the organization in a precarious situation. As well as poor player development Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Just preparing you guys for when he breaks camp with White Sox in 2013 as an everyday player, possibly as the clean up hitter. Because that is the pace he's on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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