Leonard Washington Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Mariners Claim Jeff Gray By Ben Nicholson-Smith [May 13, 2011 at 1:18pm CST] The Mariners claimed Jeff Gray off of waivers from the White Sox, according to Larry Stone of the Seattle Times (on Twitter). The White Sox designated the right-hander for assignment earlier in the week. Seattle has yet to announce a corresponding move. Gray, 29, had pitched 13 1/3 innings for the White Sox this year, with 4.7 K/9 and 2.7 BB/9. He has a 4.36 ERA with 5.7 K/9 and 2.3 BB/9 in 53 2/3 career innings with the Athletics, Cubs and White Sox. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/05/mari...-jeff-gray.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Luckily Pena and Pierre are still on our roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Man Gray went from being an afterthought when he got called up, to a major leaguer. No one expected him to do anything but be awful when he was here, and he goes out and is really effective. Crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 13, 2011 -> 01:34 PM) Man Gray went from being an afterthought when he got called up, to a major leaguer. No one expected him to do anything but be awful when he was here, and he goes out and is really effective. Crazy. And gets DFA'd, lack of accountability strikes again (trademarked by Milkman)!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 That was about as good as the move to acquire LHP Javier Lopez and then trading him away....and watching him go on to enjoy a long career in the majors. I think he was the only lefty of the 10-12 we auditioned that offseason who ended up having a decent stint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 It's no surprise that he was claimed. He wasn't going to clear waivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 None of his appearances were really in any pressure situations, so I'm not too concerned that we lost some great reliever. That being said, he clearly outpitched Pena, yet Gray was the one cut. Accountability? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I wish Pena would of been the one gone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 (edited) Reminds me of the decision not to re-sign DJ Carrasco. He's the kind of guy who serves as an inspiration for hundreds of minor leaguers of perseverance being rewarded...but instead the White Sox usually stick with veteran players like Pierre, Pena and Teahen. Edited May 13, 2011 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ May 13, 2011 -> 01:37 PM) And gets DFA'd, lack of accountability strikes again (trademarked by Milkman)!!! Unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (bigruss22 @ May 13, 2011 -> 01:37 PM) And gets DFA'd, lack of accountability strikes again (trademarked by Milkman)!!! LOL, I'm such an egomaniac. I love it. Edited May 13, 2011 by Milkman delivers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I find it hilarious how upset people are that Jeff Gray is no longer on our roster. Yeah, yeah, I get that he's outpitched Pena, and that Pierre is PE#1 and Mark Teahen is still on the roster etc...but I still find this comical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ May 13, 2011 -> 02:37 PM) I find it hilarious how upset people are that Jeff Gray is no longer on our roster. Yeah, yeah, I get that he's outpitched Pena, and that Pierre is PE#1 and Mark Teahen is still on the roster etc...but I still find this comical. It's been a slow buildup of these types of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ May 13, 2011 -> 02:37 PM) I find it hilarious how upset people are that Jeff Gray is no longer on our roster. Yeah, yeah, I get that he's outpitched Pena, and that Pierre is PE#1 and Mark Teahen is still on the roster etc...but I still find this comical. I find it comical when people go crazy over one loss, but when you are playing .350 baseball than it is fitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeFabregas Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Major league teams generally don't enforce "accountability" by cutting veteran players. That's not really the way it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 QUOTE (JorgeFabregas @ May 13, 2011 -> 11:46 PM) Major league teams generally don't enforce "accountability" by cutting veteran players. That's not really the way it works. Unless it's Milton Bradley or Carlos Silva. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 QUOTE (JorgeFabregas @ May 14, 2011 -> 12:46 AM) Major league teams generally don't enforce "accountability" by cutting veteran players. That's not really the way it works. You mean like how the Blue Jays didn't release Frank Thomas in 2008, even though he was one of the greatest hitters of the previous 25 years and was a 500 home run hitter? You release players who are bad. Tony Pena is bad. --- I'm relatively upset about this, with the key word being relatively. It's not worth arguing or fighting about nor am I going to lose sleep over it, but it seems quite clear to me that Jeff Gray is a superior option to Tony Pena. There are a lot of options that are superior to Tony Pena. Perhaps he has taken on the role of Jenks and brings candy to the bullpen and keeps guys loose or what have you, but Pena is really bad, whereas Jeff Gray is only bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 People are upset about losing Jeff Gray? Jeff Gray? Really? People, he did fine, but it was 13 innings in garbage time. If he was as valuable as you think, the White Sox wouldn't have had to place him on waivers, they could have traded him for something, anything, but apparently no team was willing to give KW anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 14, 2011 -> 04:58 AM) You release players who are bad. Tony Pena is bad. KW tryin to see if Pena is still the reliever he thought he was getting in the Brandon Allen trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Its not what you've done the last couple weeks, its what they project you will do the rest of the season. The odds are pretty good that Pena will have a stretch of 13 innings with a 2.70 ERA this year, and they are pretty good that Gray will have a stretch of 10 innings where his ERA is 8.10. As bad as Pena has been, he's a better and more valuable pitcher than Jeff Gray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 14, 2011 -> 06:39 AM) People are upset about losing Jeff Gray? Jeff Gray? Really? People, he did fine, but it was 13 innings in garbage time. If he was as valuable as you think, the White Sox wouldn't have had to place him on waivers, they could have traded him for something, anything, but apparently no team was willing to give KW anything. All though I am shocked he got claimed so quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 A veteran won out over a journeyman. I always hate it when we lose someone to waiver caims and we seem to get those "out of option guys" but it is what it is. Gray did good and as management said we need to see more out of Pena now. But, I was not surprised Gray was demoted. He did well over a stretch of games, but there was no guarantee he could be effective over the course of the year and his past record doesn't really instill confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 The A's should be more upset about losing Phil Humber, when the Sox claimed him off waivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 14, 2011 -> 06:39 AM) People are upset about losing Jeff Gray? Jeff Gray? Really? People, he did fine, but it was 13 innings in garbage time. If he was as valuable as you think, the White Sox wouldn't have had to place him on waivers, they could have traded him for something, anything, but apparently no team was willing to give KW anything. It's all relative. I'm more upset when a fly lands on my arm than about the White Sox losing Jeff Gray, but they both still upset me. QUOTE (SoxAce @ May 14, 2011 -> 07:00 AM) KW tryin to see if Pena is still the reliever he thought he was getting in the Brandon Allen trade. They've had almost 2 years to do that. He's proven to be really bad. Edited May 14, 2011 by witesoxfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 QUOTE (flavum @ May 14, 2011 -> 04:07 PM) The A's should be more upset about losing Phil Humber, when the Sox claimed him off waivers. Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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