danman31 Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Toledo @ Knights Montgomery @ Barons Leesman 6 scoreless innings Remenowsky rocked Dash won game 1 6-3 Martinez HR, Gac 2 HR Rienzo 6 IP, R, 6 K, 6 BB, 2 H Pelicans @ Dash game 2 Kanny lost 4-3 Thompson, Blanke 2 hits Wilson 4 hits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Of course, as soon as people start talking about Remenowsky like he should replace T-Pain, he gets rocked. Seems to happen a lot around here, as soon as we "notice" a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 18, 2011 -> 01:59 PM) Of course, as soon as people start talking about Remenowsky like he should replace T-Pain, he gets rocked. Seems to happen a lot around here, as soon as we "notice" a player. Wow. Yes, he got tattooed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Is Tyler Kuhn a prospect? Hitting .352. OBP over .400. He plays all over the field. Has some speed. Bats lefty. What am I missing here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (flavum @ May 18, 2011 -> 02:17 PM) Is Tyler Kuhn a prospect? Hitting .352. OBP over .400. He plays all over the field. Has some speed. Bats lefty. What am I missing here? Sample size and the fact he's already 24. Kuhn was a guy I was excited about going into 2009. But he didn't do anything of relevance. Certainly nothing to deem him a top prospect. He doesn't have a particular tool(s) that jump out at you. If he can keep this up for a full year then MAYBE you have something. And let me emphasize maybe. But it's not going to happen. He's got like 5 career HRs. He's not going to maintain a .500+ slg%. Edited May 18, 2011 by Jordan4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 18, 2011 -> 02:24 PM) Sample size and the fact he's already 24. Kuhn was a guy I was excited about going into 2009. But he didn't do anything of relevance. Certainly nothing to deem him a top prospect. He doesn't have a particular tool(s) that jump out at you. If he can keep this up for a full year then MAYBE you have something. And let me emphasize maybe. But it's not going to happen. He's got like 5 career HRs. He's not going to maintain a .500+ slg%. He needs to be promoted to test him at AAA. I like him a lot, I wouldn't doubt him, he's a hard worker and could make it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 18, 2011 -> 01:59 PM) Of course, as soon as people start talking about Remenowsky like he should replace T-Pain, he gets rocked. Seems to happen a lot around here, as soon as we "notice" a player. I finally saw him pitch...doesn't throw like Bronson Arroyo at all. Nothing really deceptive about his arm motion, offspeed and breaking stuff ran 72, 74 and 78. Nice 12 to 6 break on his curve/slider. Fastball only touched 89, he moves it around a lot. Leg kick wasn't that dramatic, probably toned it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Montgomery has two former 1st overall draft picks on their roster, Matt Bush and Tim Beckham. How often does that happen? Beckham can't hit anything offspeed or breaking. Tampa fans shouldn't hold their breath waiting on him to become anything. Bush on the other hand might turn out to be a decent reliever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Gac hit 2 HR. He now has 13 HR in 143 AB. That's a HR every 10.9 AB. That's almost Paul Goldschmidt-like power numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 QUOTE (JPN366 @ May 18, 2011 -> 03:33 PM) Montgomery has two former 1st overall draft picks on their roster, Matt Bush and Tim Beckham. How often does that happen? Beckham can't hit anything offspeed or breaking. Tampa fans shouldn't hold their breath waiting on him to become anything. Bush on the other hand might turn out to be a decent reliever. Beckham is looking like their lone screw-up in the last five years. Besides that, no organization has been run better the last five years. How they're even in first place after all they lost at this point is beyond description. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 From the Buddy Bell interview, on Remenowsky... JM: Dan Remenowsky, we've heard about him as a guy with so-so stuff who just gets it done and his walk and strikeout numbers are insane this year. How encouraged are you by him and how aggressively will you advance him, like say if a bullpen spot opens up on the White Sox 25-man roster? BB: He;s one of the guys that we talk about a lot. He's a kid who doesn't throw 95-96 like Sergio, Infante or Omogrosso. We talk about him because this guy throws 88-89, maybe tops out at 90 on his best day, but what we talk about all the time is that we have to get guys like that to higher levels to see if it's real or not. He's shocked us everywhere he's been. He was an undrafted player, went to Bristol and did well there. We needed somebody in Great Falls, we sent him there, he ended up being the closer. Hey, professional baseball is professional baseball, so when you're doing what he did even in Great Falls, there is something to this There's deception there, there's something going on. Plus he's coming up with an above average changeup. It's realistic to think, and you don't really want to put him in a category of a Sutter or a Doug Jones who wasn't overpowering but had great secondary changes in their split and their changeup so a kid like Remenowsky who could hit a gnat in the ass on both sides of the plates to go along with some deception, there is a chance that this kid could be throwing in Chicago and that's wuite a story for an undrafted kid. We're gonna have to figure something out right now, since he's kind of blocked off, and as long as he gets innings that's fine, but at some point we're going to have to get him to another level to see how real this really is. But the hitters normally will tell us this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Viciedo took another walk. Danks is 1/2 with an RBI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ May 18, 2011 -> 07:40 PM) Viciedo took another walk. Danks is 1/2 with an RBI. These two both got hot together and addressed their big flaws too...stupid Flowers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 JPN/Danman, do we have anyone apart from Leesman in AA who looks worthy of getting promoted to the Charlotte rotation? It seems this year they are really terrible. Every time I look at a box score a Charlotte starter is getting shelled!!! WTF??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Mitchell was taken out after 2 AB. Not sure why. Addison Reed got shelled. Didn't even record a K in his 1 1/3 IP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 QUOTE (SpainSOXfan09 @ May 18, 2011 -> 08:26 PM) JPN/Danman, do we have anyone apart from Leesman in AA who looks worthy of getting promoted to the Charlotte rotation? It seems this year they are really terrible. Every time I look at a box score a Charlotte starter is getting shelled!!! WTF??? Zaleski, but mostly due to age. He's 29 and spent all of last year in Charlotte's rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 18, 2011 -> 02:24 PM) Sample size and the fact he's already 24. Kuhn was a guy I was excited about going into 2009. But he didn't do anything of relevance. Certainly nothing to deem him a top prospect. He doesn't have a particular tool(s) that jump out at you. If he can keep this up for a full year then MAYBE you have something. And let me emphasize maybe. But it's not going to happen. He's got like 5 career HRs. He's not going to maintain a .500+ slg%. Having over 25% of a season's ABs isn't sample size bias. Also, I don't understand how being 24 in your second season of AA is bad. Perhaps you can enlighten us. It looks like Kuhn's success can be tied to him cutting down on strikeouts and putting the ball in play more. Obviously one can argue that part of his success is that he's getting luckier, which would be true, but he's showing a lot of progress at AA. He most likely projects as a utility infielder with a good bat, little pop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted May 19, 2011 Author Share Posted May 19, 2011 QUOTE (JPN366 @ May 18, 2011 -> 10:17 PM) Zaleski, but mostly due to age. He's 29 and spent all of last year in Charlotte's rotation. He's a solid pitcher for the high minors. What about Axelrod? Have you seen him this year? He's got good control from the numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Good to see JorDanks continuing to do well. Maybe they should throw him in the lead-off spot in Charlotte <_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 QUOTE (Cali @ May 19, 2011 -> 12:04 AM) Good to see JorDanks continuing to do well. Maybe they should throw him in the lead-off spot in Charlotte <_> I'm not kidding, if he shows this instant cutting down on K's isn't temporary, I want his and Dayan's asses up in Chicago with Pierre DFA'd and Rios traded for a kitty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ May 19, 2011 -> 12:34 AM) I'm not kidding, if he shows this instant cutting down on K's isn't temporary, I want his and Dayan's asses up in Chicago with Pierre DFA'd and Rios traded for a kitty. Jordan will be up this year to play in a major league game in which his brother is pitching. If nothing more than to nudge JD to sign a contract extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Rienzo with the sexy K/9 numbers but he is walking alot of hitters (over 4 BB/9) as well. Reminds me alot of Neal Cotts (as far as those numbers) when he was in Birmingham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 QUOTE (danman31 @ May 18, 2011 -> 10:47 PM) He's a solid pitcher for the high minors. What about Axelrod? Have you seen him this year? He's got good control from the numbers. Long term, he'll be a solid AAA pitcher, maybe could be an emergency starter in the majors. He seems to succeed on movement, deception and ball placement. As well as being underestimated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ May 18, 2011 -> 10:32 PM) Having over 25% of a season's ABs isn't sample size bias. Also, I don't understand how being 24 in your second season of AA is bad. Perhaps you can enlighten us. It looks like Kuhn's success can be tied to him cutting down on strikeouts and putting the ball in play more. Obviously one can argue that part of his success is that he's getting luckier, which would be true, but he's showing a lot of progress at AA. He most likely projects as a utility infielder with a good bat, little pop. It's not luck. The more he plays, the more he hits. He really should be leading off for the Barons. If 24 is too old for AA, then take a look at the rosters for all of the AA teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 QUOTE (SoxAce @ May 19, 2011 -> 08:34 AM) Rienzo with the sexy K/9 numbers but he is walking alot of hitters (over 4 BB/9) as well. Reminds me alot of Neal Cotts (as far as those numbers) when he was in Birmingham. In the interview with Buddy Bell, he said Rienzo is a raw pitcher, and he goes out there with the idea of striking out every single batter. Bell said he needs to learn that he needs to attack the strikezone and let his defense work, and not just try and nibble to get the strikeout every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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