fathom Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 24, 2011 -> 01:43 AM) Yeah, lets all pretend that teams are breaking down the door for the 0-8 pitcher. I think he still has some value, but he has been a huge disappointment this season. I'm just relieved we didn't give him some 4 year, 68 mil extension or anything like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Maybe Morel wil play tomorrow; DM 0 for 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (oldsox @ May 23, 2011 -> 08:43 PM) Anyone remember why Cincy let Hamilton go? Can't remember the details. Pretty sure they were just trying to sell high on him...he went from a complete bust to a very good player, but I don't think they trusted that his success would last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 23, 2011 -> 09:43 PM) If you watch any games at all you should already know! I follow on gameday on my iPod and spend time with you all, I get my info here and on my other board, I'm kinda a slave for work so not much time to read up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ May 23, 2011 -> 09:46 PM) I think he still has some value, but he has been a huge disappointment this season. I'm just relieved we didn't give him some 4 year, 68 mil extension or anything like that. Man that would have been a huge discount Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ May 23, 2011 -> 08:46 PM) I think he still has some value, but he has been a huge disappointment this season. I'm just relieved we didn't give him some 4 year, 68 mil extension or anything like that. You guys are really busting out the pessimism tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 24, 2011 -> 01:47 AM) Man that would have been a huge discount You think 17 mil is a discount, or is it the years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (iamshack @ May 24, 2011 -> 01:48 AM) You guys are really busting out the pessimism tonight! With regards to being happy that we didn't give Danks ace money? I fully expected the Sox to lose tonight, as Ogando's a tough match-up for a righty heavy team. Have you seen his numbers against righties this season? Edited May 24, 2011 by fathom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ May 23, 2011 -> 09:49 PM) You think 17 mil is a discount, or is it the years? The years. Before this bust, he was looking like a 7/110 or more pitcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 23, 2011 -> 08:43 PM) Yeah, lets all pretend that teams are breaking down the door for the 0-8 pitcher. He will be 0-7 don't jinx JD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 24, 2011 -> 01:50 AM) The years. Before this bust, he was looking like a 7/110 or more pitcher. Do you see JR giving that long of a contract to a pitcher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (oldsox @ May 23, 2011 -> 08:43 PM) Anyone remember why Cincy let Hamilton go? Can't remember the details. The Cubs actually owned Hamilton for a couple of minutes. They selected him in the rule 5 and sold him to Cincinatti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ May 23, 2011 -> 08:50 PM) With regards to being happy that we didn't give Danks ace money? I fully expected the Sox to lose tonight, as Ogando's a tough match-up for a righty heavy team. Have you seen his numbers against righties this season? Let's not overreact here...he definitely has had a bit of a down year, but he's a 26 year old lefty with 46 wins under his belt and a career ERA around 4 pitching in a bandbox...to say that his value is seriously compromised based on his W-L record this year or a few rough outings seems to be a bit ridiculous to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ May 23, 2011 -> 09:52 PM) Do you see JR giving that long of a contract to a pitcher? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (iamshack @ May 24, 2011 -> 01:54 AM) Let's not overreact here...he definitely has had a bit of a down year, but he's a 26 year old lefty with 46 wins under his belt and a career ERA around 4 pitching in a bandbox...to say that his value is seriously compromised based on his W-L record this year or a few rough outings seems to be a bit ridiculous to me. I thought I said in an earlier post that I didn't think his value was too diminished for other teams right now. For the Sox, I absolutely cannot see how they can afford him. Edited May 24, 2011 by fathom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 23, 2011 -> 08:50 PM) The years. Before this bust, he was looking like a 7/110 or more pitcher. This bust? Put down the whiskey, Balta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (iamshack @ May 23, 2011 -> 09:54 PM) Let's not overreact here...he definitely has had a bit of a down year, but he's a 26 year old lefty with 46 wins under his belt and a career ERA around 4 pitching in a bandbox...to say that his value is seriously compromised based on his W-L record this year or a few rough outings seems to be a bit ridiculous to me. Depends on what you mean by seriously compromised. You've got to admit that his desirability has dropped substantially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ May 23, 2011 -> 08:52 PM) Do you see JR giving that long of a contract to a pitcher? After watching Dunn and Rios perform, I doubt JR is going to give out big money for a lot of years to someone he isn't very familiar with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (iamshack @ May 23, 2011 -> 09:55 PM) This bust? Put down the whiskey, Balta. Yeah, that was too harsh, but he's costing himself some serious money right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 AR DP ratio is horrid f***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ May 23, 2011 -> 08:55 PM) I thought I said in an earlier post that I didn't think his value was too diminished for other teams right now. For the Sox, I absolutely cannot see how they can afford him. Oh ok, I missed that. Sorry. Honestly, I think it's time to move him...this is the price we're ultimately going to pay for trading for Jake and bringing in Rios...and so be it. I think we can still get some nice pieces for him, especially if we move him at the deadline to NYY or Boston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Offense needs to show up this road trip, or the season could be over. We face a lot of powerful offenses, and we're going to have to score more than a few runs to win most of the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 The pitches that Hamilton and Cruz have hit, were absolute meatballs, AWFUL pitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Hawk is all over Viciedo's nuts. Good to hear! Danks ERA about to blow up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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