macsandz Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 As a team against lefties this season: .227/.305/.323/.628 Oh my lord, that is just brutal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Adam Dunn's lack of a single hit against a left-hander is a funny statistic. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6763/s...g4UPla9pdeFCLcF 0-30, baby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted May 24, 2011 Author Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 24, 2011 -> 02:48 PM) Adam Dunn's lack of a single hit against a left-hander is a funny statistic. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6763/s...g4UPla9pdeFCLcF 0-30, baby! If he's any where near the lineup tonight that's a f*cking joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 24, 2011 -> 02:48 PM) Adam Dunn's lack of a single hit against a left-hander is a funny statistic. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6763/s...g4UPla9pdeFCLcF 0-30, baby! HA! I found this article (linked to me by a buddy) right after I posted. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_leagu...?urn=mlb-wp7384 Hilariously awful stat: Adam Dunn is 0 for 30 against lefties By David Brown Finally, a stat that proves a major league team really could pull a fan out of the stands and he (or she) would be guaranteed to do no worse than the millionaire who's usually in the batter's box. Chicago White Sox slugger Adam Dunn(notes) has no hits against left-handed pitching in 30 at-bats this season — or 34 plate appearances if you want to make his performance sound a tad worse. Checking MLB's un-leader board, nobody with at least 25 plate appearances has been worse than Dunn against lefty pitching. Everyone else in the group has at least one hit against a southpaw, except for Jorge Posada(notes) of the Yankees. He's 0 for 25, with no hits in 31 plate appearances. It is still, however, better than Adam. Also, Hip Hip Jorge is old and infirm. Dunn is eight years younger and much more robust, or so the White Sox assumed when they signed him to a $56 million, four-year deal in the offseason and stuck him in the middle of their batting order. As Sahadev Sharma notes at ESPN Chicago, manager Ozzie Guillen says he has no plans to sit the left-handed Dunn against lefties, at least as a recurring move: "If I'm going to sit him, it'll be to have a [regular] day off," Guillen said. "This guy is a pure, good hitter and is going through a tough time right now." For his part, Dunn recently said he feels good when facing lefties. Guillen found that a little funny and said he definitely doesn't want to see what happens when Dunn's feeling bad against a lefty. Gotta love Ozzie with the gallows humor. And though Guillen makes some head-scratching tactical decisions, he's absolutely right to leave Dunn where he is. Two reasons: One, Dunn probably will hit as Guillen expects. His track record is long enough. Two, the White Sox don't have better alternatives, though they could bring up Dayan Viciedo(notes) from the minors, I suppose. (He's not better than Dunn.) And if Dunn doesn't hit better than .200, the White Sox are doomed to finish no better than fourth. While Dunn tends to be weaker against lefties for his career, he's inconsistent from season to season. He hit .199/.304/.416 against lefties in 2010, but he's also had seasons where his batting average was better against lefties than righties. The 2009 season, for example. Go figure. It's encouraging that Dunn hasn't been totally lost hitting against right-handers (.241/.360/.438), though he does share the league's overall lead in strikeouts with Detroit's Austin Jackson(notes). But he was striking out a lot when he was producing runs, so that's not it. Out of curiosity, I also checked to see who with at least 25 plate appearances against righties has no hits: Nobody, though Cleveland's Lou Marson(notes) is 1 for 25. Another guy not expected to hit like Adam Dunn — at least not when Dunn is actually producing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 If only we had a prospect in our system that could mash lefty pitching!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ May 24, 2011 -> 03:22 PM) If only we had a prospect in our system that could mash lefty pitching!! i see what you did there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ May 24, 2011 -> 03:22 PM) If only we had a prospect in our system that could mash lefty pitching!! All the more reason that people need to be fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ May 24, 2011 -> 04:22 PM) If only we had a prospect in our system that could mash lefty pitching!! Well actually, he is lefty/righty splits are not too different. He hits for better average against RHP, but some reason has a MUCH better batting eye against LHP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlackSox8 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ May 24, 2011 -> 03:22 PM) If only we had a prospect in our system that could mash lefty pitching!! He's no slouch against right handers either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ May 24, 2011 -> 09:36 PM) Well actually, he is lefty/righty splits are not too different. He hits for better average against RHP, but some reason has a MUCH better batting eye against LHP. Based on what I saw from him in the majors last year, he should be able to be a monster against LHP. Lillibridge also needs to play every game against LHP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ May 24, 2011 -> 04:40 PM) Lillibridge also needs to play every game against LHP. Somehow, the fact that you said this is going to wind up costing Morel more at bats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 It also would have been nice to have someone like Andruw Jones to use occasionally against LHP as well. Not that we would be in 1st place with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 24, 2011 -> 06:01 PM) It also would have been nice to have someone like Andruw Jones to use occasionally against LHP as well. Not that we would be in 1st place with him. He'd be taking at bats away from Lillibridge. We might well have lost more games with Jones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ May 24, 2011 -> 03:22 PM) If only we had a prospect in our system that could mash lefty pitching!! .900 OPS against 'em and a 8/10 BB/K ratio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 I'm going to make an educated guess that the author of that ESPN/Chicago article has never once in his life seen Dayan Viciedo swing a baseball bat. Is Viciedo going to have the same impact as Dunn on the back of his baseball card? Obviously doubtful, but just to discount the possible contributions of a minor leaguer that you've probably never seen...well, it just goes to show you that anyone can have an opinion these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 24, 2011 -> 05:46 PM) Is Viciedo going to have the same impact as Dunn on the back of his baseball card? At least Viciedo won't watch strike three go by with runners in scoring position. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 24, 2011 -> 03:46 PM) I'm going to make an educated guess that the author of that ESPN/Chicago article has never once in his life seen Dayan Viciedo swing a baseball bat. Is Viciedo going to have the same impact as Dunn on the back of his baseball card? Obviously doubtful, but just to discount the possible contributions of a minor leaguer that you've probably never seen...well, it just goes to show you that anyone can have an opinion these days. Based on what I saw of Dayan last year I can absolutely 100% guarantee that he would have put the ball in play more against lefties than Dunn and 99.75% sure he would have better offensive numbers in just about any category you choose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeFabregas Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 (edited) Huh. It's too bad Dunn made it into the lineup today. edit: That is to say, .230/.348/.456/.804 is his career line v. lefties. You can't possibly want our gazillion dollar hitter to have a platoon position because of a 34 PA sample size. Edited May 25, 2011 by JorgeFabregas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 What left handed pitcher are you referring to specifically? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 This has been a problem since June 2006 ................fire Walker new life is needed on this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 25, 2011 -> 08:26 PM) This has been a problem since June 2006 ................fire Walker new life is needed on this team. Th9is has been a problem with the Sox since the early 80's. I remember the Sox just flailing away against soft tossing lefties like Scott McGregor and Mike Flanagan. You'll see from my previous posts that I often bring up Sox futility against lefties, especially soft tossers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 QUOTE (ptatc @ May 26, 2011 -> 09:33 PM) Th9is has been a problem with the Sox since the early 80's. I remember the Sox just flailing away against soft tossing lefties like Scott McGregor and Mike Flanagan. You'll see from my previous posts that I often bring up Sox futility against lefties, especially soft tossers. And Greg Walker was the team then... Coincidence? I think not. The Sox are so awful they should have fired Walker 30 years ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 27, 2011 -> 06:10 AM) And Greg Walker was the team then... Coincidence? I think not. The Sox are so awful they should have fired Walker 30 years ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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