southsider2k5 Posted June 2, 2011 Author Share Posted June 2, 2011 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 12:19 PM) how the hell do the Rays have 12 picks in the first 89? They lost their entire bullpen to free agency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 12:19 PM) how the hell do the Rays have 12 picks in the first 89? Do you not realize how many guys they lost to FA? And the way they draft, wow. They've got a chance to fatten up a system that's already one of the elite. Edited June 2, 2011 by Jordan4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 12:19 PM) how the hell do the Rays have 12 picks in the first 89? Carl Crawford +2 Picks, Rafael Soriano +2 Picks Grant Balfour +2 Picks Brad Hawpe +1 Pick Joaquin Benoit +1 Pick Randy Choate +1 Pick Chad Qualls +1 Pick First Round +1 Pick Second Round +1 Pick ___________________ = 12 Picks Edited June 2, 2011 by DirtySox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 No draft pick for Carlos Pena? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 12:47 PM) No draft pick for Carlos Pena? They didn't offer him arbitration in fear that he would accept it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 12:43 PM) Carl Crawford +2 Picks, Rafael Soriano +2 Picks Grant Balfour +2 Picks Brad Hawpe +1 Pick Joaquin Benoit +1 Pick Randy Choate +1 Pick Chad Qualls +1 Pick First Round +1 Pick Second Round +1 Pick ___________________ = 12 Picks And they're still only 2.5 games out in that monster of a division with one of the top 3 players in the AL missing nearly 30 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 12:49 PM) And they're still only 2.5 games out in that monster of a division with one of the top 3 players in the AL missing nearly 30 games. The Rays are the model to follow in drafting, scouting, and development. Particularly in pitching. They just keep churning out solid to excellent arms. Their farm system was/is second only to the Royals and they will potentially leapfrog them after the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 12:53 PM) The Rays are the model to follow in drafting, scouting, and development. Particularly in pitching. They just keep churning out solid to excellent arms. Their farm system was/is second only to the Royals and they will potentially leapfrog them after the draft. Bingo. People keep looking at all the top 3 picks they had when they were awful (Longoria, Price, Upton). But if you look beyond that, it's easy to see they know what the hell they're doing. The Braves are right there as well. Edit: though they royally f***ed up in taking Beckham instead of Posey in '08. Oh my goodness that team with Buster Posey for the next 10 years or so. Edited June 2, 2011 by Jordan4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 12:56 PM) Bingo. People keep looking at all the top 3 picks they had when they were awful (Longoria, Price, Upton). But if you look beyond that, it's easy to see they know what the hell they're doing. The Braves are right there as well. Edit: though they royally f***ed up in taking Beckham instead of Posey in '08. Oh my goodness that team with Buster Posey for the next 10 years or so. Or Gordon, or Alvarez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 2, 2011 Author Share Posted June 2, 2011 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 12:53 PM) The Rays are the model to follow in drafting, scouting, and development. Particularly in pitching. They just keep churning out solid to excellent arms. Their farm system was/is second only to the Royals and they will potentially leapfrog them after the draft. When the Royals talent pans out, I might place them ahead of Tampa. Tampa has proven their system works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 02:02 PM) When the Royals talent pans out, I might place them ahead of Tampa. Tampa has proven their system works. Well the tip of the iceberg is already in full view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 02:03 PM) Well the tip of the iceberg is already in full view. Hosmer might be my new Cargo. Aaron Crow is filthy (though he blew a save a few days ago). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 01:57 PM) Or Gordon, or Alvarez. Yeah, but a catcher of that caliber is the most difficult to come by. And they had no catching prospects worth a damn then or now. Some of it's hindsight. The other part is just a f*** up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 2, 2011 Author Share Posted June 2, 2011 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 02:03 PM) Well the tip of the iceberg is already in full view. And the iceberg has covered Tampa for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 02:02 PM) When the Royals talent pans out, I might place them ahead of Tampa. Tampa has proven their system works. You are talking developmental aspects of the organizations. I would agree Tampa is ahead of KC in that regard. Speaking strictly on the sheer amount and quality of talent in the system, KC is/was generally considered number 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 I think the Royals whole top 10 or close to is in most top 50 prospect lists. That's unheard of! Whether they pan out or not isn't the question. They easily have the best farm system in baseball right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 QUOTE (BearSox @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 03:28 PM) Whether they pan out or not isn't the question. They easily have the best farm system in baseball right now. Isn't that really the only question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 02:30 PM) Isn't that really the only question? Trying to predict which prospects succeed and which fail is like trying to pick the winning numbers for the lottery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 QUOTE (BearSox @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 03:42 PM) Trying to predict which prospects succeed and which fail is like trying to pick the winning numbers for the lottery. So..."Whether they pan out" is still undecided and is therefore the only question that really matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 2, 2011 Author Share Posted June 2, 2011 QUOTE (BearSox @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 02:42 PM) Trying to predict which prospects succeed and which fail is like trying to pick the winning numbers for the lottery. It doesn't matter for a second where they are ranked. The Sox in 2000 had the top ranked farm team in the country... How'd that work out? The Royals have had tons of prospects in recent years, very few of them have come close to their hype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 04:12 PM) How'd that work out? We wound up with a World Series championship less than 1 arbitration/Free Agency period afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 03:12 PM) It doesn't matter for a second where they are ranked. The Sox in 2000 had the top ranked farm team in the country... How'd that work out? The Royals have had tons of prospects in recent years, very few of them have come close to their hype. It still doesn't change the fact that the Royals currently have the best farm system in baseball. Will the prospects pan out or not? No one knows. For all we know the Rays current farm system will wind up busting, and the White Sox system is gonna shock everyone. Unlikely, yes. But no one can predict the success of prospects. But what we do know is that the Royals current system is f***ing stacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Here's Merkin on the draft. There are plenty of players earning the White Sox attention who simply won't be around when they select at No. 47. The depth and the strength of this Draft has been labeled as college pitching, meaning the White Sox should have plenty of options to help the young core of the organization even without a pick in Round 1. The scoop "We will deal from the depth of the Draft, which looks like it's in the college pitching, and that's a good thing for us," Laumann said. "Or if we feel like there's one position player that stands out as an impact guy, we can possibly get him at 47 and feel confident about the next two or three college arms." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 I'd be down for Purke if he somehow slides to 47. Sox would obviously have to dish out some cash though (4 to 5M). Which they won't. There is a shot Goodwin could be there too (drafted by Sox before, repped by Boras, kicked out of UNC and now playing for Miami Dade CC). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Will the Sox pick on day one (June 6th) or with the 47th pick do they wait until day 2 (June 7th)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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