Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Long story short: I really wanted Jujuan Johnson. Didn't think he'd be there when we picked first. He was there when we picked first. We took a guy that might help us in 2015. I got pissed. Didn't break any board rules. The end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 05:09 PM) Long story short: I really wanted Jujuan Johnson. Didn't think he'd be there when we picked first. He was there when we picked first. We took a guy that might help us in 2015. I got pissed. Didn't break any board rules. The end. I'm not suggesting you get banned, I just still want to talk about last night's draft, terrible a pool of talent as it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 24, 2011 Author Share Posted June 24, 2011 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 11:59 AM) The odds are not in the Bulls' favor, but a sampling of some quality guards that have gone 23rd or later since 2000... Monta Ellis (high school, so not totally fair) Michael Redd Gilbert Arenas Kevin Martin Tony Parker (though may not totally be fair since he was a foreigner) Josh Howard (guard/forward) Mo Williams Aaron Afflalo Whether or not anyone in this brutal draft turns out to be that good is an entirely different story. 8 out of what, a couple of hundred? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 12:34 PM) 8 out of what, a couple of hundred? As I said in the post, I never claimed the odds were good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 06:39 PM) As I said in the post, I never claimed the odds were good. True, there have been good picks in that range. But some of those definitely took time to develop. I just don't think it was reasonable to thinkt he bulls would use the draft to upgrade SG. They did not make that trade for Fernandez, but I hope that's because they are targeting someone they deem a better fit performance or salary wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 This is going to be a funny thread 5 years from now when the Bulls have 3 rings and Mirotic is an all-star! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Toni Kukoc 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 11:48 AM) By rule, the Bulls can only contribute 500k to solve his buyout situation. Mirotic (or his agent I guess) would have to cover the other $1.5 mil. That wouldn't have really been an issue if he'd gone in the top-5, but at the 23 slot that's more than he'd make in his first year in the NBA. Got it. Thanks for the info. This buyout stuff makes much more sense now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Anyone thinking that Mirotic is going to be any good is being kinda silly. I think his best-case scenario is Ersan Ilyasova. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 02:04 PM) Anyone thinking that Mirotic is going to be any good is being kinda silly. I think his best-case scenario is Ersan Ilyasova. So everyone else's opinion is silly because it conflicts with your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 02:07 PM) So everyone else's opinion is silly because it conflicts with your opinion? Kinda silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 (edited) I think I got carried away. I guess Ersan Ilyasova is kinda good. I should have said "really good". The similarities between the players are endless. Edited June 24, 2011 by Steve9347 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 02:04 PM) Anyone thinking that Mirotic is going to be any good is being kinda silly. I think his best-case scenario is Ersan Ilyasova. I love it when you analyze, Stone Pony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 03:04 PM) Anyone thinking that Mirotic is going to be any good is being kinda silly. I think his best-case scenario is Ersan Ilyasova. And if he's slightly better than your guess, that makes him a legitimate starter doesn't it? He could certainly be a total bust. He's a lower 1st round pick who won't be here for a few years. But c'mon man, your own comparison weakens your statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 So now that the draft is over can we please get a real 2 guard so that Bogans is riding the pine or on another team? I'm in the OJ Mayo camp personally and wouldn't have minded dealing Omer for him. Any chance we use resources from this draft to make a trade in the coming days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 QUOTE (SoxFanForever @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 02:26 PM) So now that the draft is over can we please get a real 2 guard so that Bogans is riding the pine or on another team? I'm in the OJ Mayo camp personally and wouldn't have minded dealing Omer for him. Any chance we use resources from this draft to make a trade in the coming days? I have a feeling the resolution to our 2-guard situation won't be coming for a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time (ie after the lockout, which I predict to be a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong lockout). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 QUOTE (SoxFanForever @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 08:26 PM) So now that the draft is over can we please get a real 2 guard so that Bogans is riding the pine or on another team? I'm in the OJ Mayo camp personally and wouldn't have minded dealing Omer for him. Any chance we use resources from this draft to make a trade in the coming days? I'm interested to see if there is movement or the whole league shuts down now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 03:47 PM) I'm interested to see if there is movement or the whole league shuts down now. This was it. This league is now shutting down until there's a CBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 03:47 PM) I'm interested to see if there is movement or the whole league shuts down now. "Tell me the last time you haven't seen a single trade since the end of the regular season," said a GM on Thursday afternoon, several hours before the draft. "We haven't seen one trade, and it's because no one knows what's coming next. I'm sure we'll see deals tonight involving picks in this draft, but I don't think you're going to see anything big." Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Might as well just throw "LOCKOUT" into the thread title right now. Sad face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 SCOTTIE BACK-TRACK "The comments that I made were basically giving LeBron some props as a player, not to dismantle any player like Michael," Pippen said after a youth camp session at the Bulls/Sox academy. "We all know that he's the greatest player that ever played the game. More at this superduper link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 05:50 PM) SCOTTIE BACK-TRACK More at this superduper link. Never shoulda said it in the first place scottie, and once you did the backtrack shoulda come a lot sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 No tippin Pippen should eat crow at the places he stiffed the waiters staff all these years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 wow. Did not see that comment coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 04:48 PM) Might as well just throw "LOCKOUT" into the thread title right now. Sad face. Yeah, bye bye NBA for AWHILE. Will suck big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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