Jenksismyhero Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 23, 2011 -> 12:08 PM) Bill Simmons has fun with the NBA Trade Machine Also, his podcast with Chad Ford from Tuesday was pretty awesome. They dissect the Draft and trade possibilities like no other. I like his "coin" system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jun 23, 2011 -> 01:19 PM) I like his "coin" system. At first it was cute then it started getting annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 23, 2011 -> 12:46 PM) I'm still so glad Kahn jumped all over Beasley to help Miami snag an extra stud. Wouldn't you have done so if you were a non-contending team's GM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 23, 2011 -> 11:37 AM) Bogdanovic is a very good shooter. Although he might want to jump onto an NBA team right away. I've heard that he's a pretty clutch offensive player, but is pretty poor defensively. If he's smart, he's expecting that an immediate NBA jump will be difficult because of the lack of NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jun 23, 2011 -> 12:04 AM) Georgia is a small school? Maybe to you Georgia screams basketball, but it doesn't to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 23, 2011 -> 12:20 PM) Wouldn't you have done so if you were a non-contending team's GM? For Michael Beasley? No, f*** that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 23, 2011 -> 12:20 PM) At first it was cute then it started getting annoying. Well yeah, welcome to the Sports Guys' World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 23, 2011 -> 10:32 AM) http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/06/23/bul...quettes-butler/ Might have been posted already, but here's a great read on Butler. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2011/co...e=Butler-110618 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 QUOTE (Felix @ Jun 22, 2011 -> 07:57 PM) http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-w...t_rambis_062211 At least we don't have to worry about Rambis f***ing up Rubio now. EDIT: Probably at least -- http://twitter.com/#!/JerryZgoda/statu...700640307609600 If true, that would simply be outstanding for the Wolves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Good job cutting your losses t-wolves. No use wasting 2 years on a coach you know doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jun 23, 2011 -> 12:26 PM) Maybe to you Georgia screams basketball, but it doesn't to me. I never said it screams basketball, but it's certainly not a small school. I think everyone could agree on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Id love to get Jon Leuer, I doubt it happens but he could be a solid role player for someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce_Blixton Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I'd really like to see the Bulls trade up to the 17-20 pick and nab Kenneth Faried, looks like a Ben Wallace-type of player that could become a beast under Thibs' coaching. If we keep the picks I'd go with Chandler Parsons, not flashy but a solid basketball player that I think could contribute off the bench right away, and a Euro prospect that can season overseas for a couple more years. Mirotic and Bertrans are my top picks but wouldn't be disappointed with Bogdanovich either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 (edited) There's a GSW, Lakers, Bulls trade rumor flying around. It would involve Noah, Odom, Ellis, and some draft picks. I don't know anymore specifics, but what might have been discussed is the Bulls getting Odom and the draft pick, which they can trade for a SG. Question is, who the hell plays C? Edited June 23, 2011 by chw42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 23, 2011 -> 02:18 PM) There's a GSW, Lakers, Bulls trade rumor flying around. It would involve Noah, Odom, Ellis, and some draft picks. Monta Ellis to the Bulls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 23, 2011 -> 02:18 PM) There's a GSW, Lakers, Bulls trade rumor flying around. It would involve Noah, Odom, Ellis, and some draft picks. I don't know anymore specifics, but what might have been discussed is the Bulls getting Odom and the draft pick, which they can trade for a SG. Question is, who the hell plays C? Howard (a man can dream, cant he?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jun 23, 2011 -> 02:21 PM) Howard (a man can dream, cant he?) Now that I think about, what I just posted made no sense. If a trade like that were to happen, the Bulls would definitely get Ellis. Odom goes to GSW to play the 3. The problem is that the Bulls were reluctant to move Noah for Carmello before, why change that stance for Monta Ellis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 23, 2011 -> 02:24 PM) Now that I think about, what I just posted made no sense. If a trade like that were to happen, the Bulls would definitely get Ellis. Odom goes to GSW to play the 3. The problem is that the Bulls were reluctant to move Noah for Carmello before, why change that stance for Monta Ellis? They playoffs showed that you didnt NEED Noah, but you NEED a second scorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 23, 2011 -> 02:24 PM) Now that I think about, what I just posted made no sense. If a trade like that were to happen, the Bulls would definitely get Ellis. Odom goes to GSW to play the 3. The problem is that the Bulls were reluctant to move Noah for Carmello before, why change that stance for Monta Ellis? You can pretty much discount any rumor involving the Bulls. They just don't make trades for stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 23, 2011 -> 02:29 PM) You can pretty much discount any rumor involving the Bulls. They just don't make trades for stars. Jalen Rose says salutations. I hope green isn't required here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Wouldnt trade Noah for Melo, Bosh, etc, but now will trade for Ellis. That seems to be inconsistent. Now maybe if the Lakers are moving Gasol for the 2 and giving that to the Bulls as well, then the Bulls could draft kanter and have what would be referred as the Turkish Towers, plus getting Ellis. I just dont think Ellis for Noah is a great return on investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I'd welcome Ellis with open arms. But for Noah? Who I'm not as big a fan of as most here. But an athletic center that can defend, grab double digits boards and not being a blackhole on offense (think Joel Anthony) is a pretty valuable commodity in today's landscape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jun 23, 2011 -> 02:32 PM) Wouldnt trade Noah for Melo, Bosh, etc, but now will trade for Ellis. That seems to be inconsistent. Now maybe if the Lakers are moving Gasol for the 2 and giving that to the Bulls as well, then the Bulls could draft kanter and have what would be referred as the Turkish Towers, plus getting Ellis. I just dont think Ellis for Noah is a great return on investment. I like how ROI has become a very common term on this forum since that thread about Rongey and Juan Pierre's ROI. But yeah, I don't like Noah for Ellis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 (edited) I never even read the thread about Rongey and Pierre, and I dont think Im using return on investment the same way. The way Im using it (to steal from Simmons dollar/coin which is simplistic but works for this) is that last year the Bulls valued Noah as a $1, he then was injured didnt perform well, and we immediately want to get .$.50 for him? That just doesnt make sense. (Edit) I assume that the Rongey/Pierre thread was about how the Sox paid Pierre so they need to get a return on that money. The problem with that argument is that you can get a better return by playing another player, so therefore you actually get a better return on your investment by JP sitting on the bench, then by JP playing. Edited June 23, 2011 by Soxbadger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 QUOTE (Bruce_Blixton @ Jun 23, 2011 -> 02:02 PM) I'd really like to see the Bulls trade up to the 17-20 pick and nab Kenneth Faried, looks like a Ben Wallace-type of player that could become a beast under Thibs' coaching. If we keep the picks I'd go with Chandler Parsons, not flashy but a solid basketball player that I think could contribute off the bench right away, and a Euro prospect that can season overseas for a couple more years. Mirotic and Bertrans are my top picks but wouldn't be disappointed with Bogdanovich either. Ewwww, Faried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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