RockRaines Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Thats awesome and all, but someone needs to fire the "And 1" announcer guy. He's the reason I used to put those shows on mute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Where is the highlight of Bulls guard John Lucas dropping 60? "I am......on the bench" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 01:38 PM) Well some NBA players have to past the time. 1st time in legendary Rucker Park for Kevin Durant? Drops 66 points. Here's him going off in the 4th. Longer highlights. awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 08:52 AM) Where is the highlight of Bulls guard John Lucas dropping 60? "I am......on the bench" I love Rucker Park and Kevin Durant, but Lucas dropping 60 shows just how meaningful Durant's 66 were (not very). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 I mean, we didn't need a rucker park performance to know durant is awesome, but the atmosphere is fun to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 06:38 AM) Well some NBA players have to past the time. 1st time in legendary Rucker Park for Kevin Durant? Drops 66 points. Here's him going off in the 4th. Longer highlights. What a ball hog. And obviously it means nothing, he's a NBA player playing at Rucker Park, he can do whatever the hell he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 11:12 AM) I mean, we didn't need a rucker park performance to know durant is awesome, but the atmosphere is fun to watch. That's what makes Rucker great. The atmosphere is always awesome, but especially when the big names are there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEdWalsh Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Meanwhile......Former NBA player Darius Miles was arrested after guards found him trying to take a loaded gun through security at Lambert Airport in St. Louis, a jail official said Thursday. Hardly shocking news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 didn't krause really love miles? Man, that was an AWFUL draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 So they're still some $800 million or so per year apart? Well, at least LeBron will have to wait until 2013 to get that elusive ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 5, 2011 Author Share Posted August 5, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 08:20 PM) So they're still some $800 million or so per year apart? Well, at least LeBron will have to wait until 2013 he goes on Pawn Stars to get that elusive ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 "All I have is a Patriots Super Bowl Ring" "I'll take it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Durant vs. Beasley streetball story "He has to know he's going to hear (heckling) up here," said one tournament official. "Doesn't he know he can get sued for doing that?" That's hardcore streetball there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 5, 2011 Author Share Posted August 5, 2011 http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/6832574/...season-canceled Billy Hunter doubts entire '11-12 season Email Print Comments1660 ESPN.com news services Players Association executive director Billy Hunter says the 2011-12 NBA season will likely be canceled entirely because the commissioner's negotiating leeway is in danger of being undermined by a group of hard-line owners. "The circumstances have changed among [David Stern's] constituency," Hunter told a group of lawyers Wednesday, as quoted in the Baltimore Sun. "In the last six or seven years, there is a new group of owners to come in who paid a premium for their franchises, and what they're doing is kind of holding his feet to the fire." Hunter told an American Bar Association conference that if he "had to bet on it", he would wager that there will be no NBA season. "We're $800 million apart per year," Hunter said Wednesday, adding, "something has to happen that both of us can use as leverage to save face." NBA owners and players held a formal collective bargaining session for the first high-level negotiations in a month Monday but after nearly three hours of discussions the sides emerged as far apart as they were when the day began. Stern said the sides were "at the same place" as they were when the lockout began July 1 just before the old collective bargaining agreement ran out. Owners are seeking significant changes to the league's salary structure, claiming $300 million in losses last season and hundreds of millions more in each year of the previous agreement, which was ratified in 2005. Players have acknowledged the losses but disputed their size, and they've balked at the league's push for a hard salary cap and reduction in salaries and maximum contract lengths. The union has encouraged players to find work rather than give in to the owners' economic demands, with the hope that owners would offer better proposals if they see their players have other options. Hunter recently sent a memo to all players endorsing locked-out players to consider playing overseas. Nets All-Star Deron Williams agreed to an overseas deal with Besiktas of Turkey, the only superstar with an overseas deal thus far, though some lesser players have one. Many elite players say they are keeping it as an option. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 That's the union saying "We're ready for the whole season to be lost this time". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 5, 2011 -> 08:20 AM) That's the union saying "We're ready for the whole season to be lost this time". Well they'd better, because it's going to be. Edited August 5, 2011 by whitesoxfan101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 no way that's true. You think the players are ready to lose a whole years salary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 5, 2011 -> 12:13 PM) no way that's true. You think the players are ready to lose a whole years salary? After 1999 they'd be fools not to expect that possibility. They lost in 1999 because they weren't prepared to eat a season and the Union broke. The Owners went into this lockout knowing that was how things went down last time, so the union now has to prove things are different. They've been telling their players that a lost season was a possibility for a while, now they have to act as if their players listened. Also, if a player is really in true financial distress...the global markets are available in ways they weren't 12 years ago. So it's entirely possible that the union could survive a full year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 5, 2011 -> 12:15 PM) Also, if a player is really in true financial distress...the global markets are available in ways they weren't 12 years ago. So it's entirely possible that the union could survive a full year. Interesting point. For those that really NEED the cash, it's at least a workable solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 5, 2011 -> 11:15 AM) After 1999 they'd be fools not to expect that possibility. They lost in 1999 because they weren't prepared to eat a season and the Union broke. The Owners went into this lockout knowing that was how things went down last time, so the union now has to prove things are different. They've been telling their players that a lost season was a possibility for a while, now they have to act as if their players listened. Also, if a player is really in true financial distress...the global markets are available in ways they weren't 12 years ago. So it's entirely possible that the union could survive a full year. The bold is exactly why I'd be very surprised if the NBA has a season this year. The only way it will is if the players fold, and there are so many opportunities overseas that I highly doubt they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I dont think there will be many players going overseas this fall outside of foreign born players and some big names that will make a splash. The teams that could afford to pay NBA players in Europe are already selling out their arenas and making money without NBA players. Those clubs arent going to want to deal with the headaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 The Player's Association should treat any player going overseas to play as Scabs. Those guys are weakening the union and is doing a disservice to those role players who arent going to get opportunities to player elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 6, 2011 Author Share Posted August 6, 2011 Except in a warped way it actually helps the union out by not letting them get desperate enough to fold quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 QUOTE (zenryan @ Aug 5, 2011 -> 06:59 PM) The Player's Association should treat any player going overseas to play as Scabs. Those guys are weakening the union and is doing a disservice to those role players who arent going to get opportunities to player elsewhere. Yeah, the union if anything wants players to go play overseas so they can make money and holdout long enough for the owners not to screw over the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 If the Player's Association thinks European teams are going to be rushing to get NBA players then they are going to be in for a shock. I think it weakens the union at the end. The players should be sticking together in this, especially when 80-90% of the NBA guys wont be playing for an international team. How would you feel if you're the 9th guy on the roster and Derron Williams basically says, "Well I'm going to Europe to make money, have fun with this lockout.."? I'd be pissed for him not having my back in this situation and when it comes time to negotiating, I'm not going to feel so bad when the owners want to lower the max contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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