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QUOTE (SoxAce @ Sep 30, 2011 -> 08:57 AM)

 

D. Rose's new Adidas commercial. (Looks like Pooh got a couple of new tats in the summer as well) Check out Adidas's slogan at the end.. Adidas is "all in." :lol:

Seriously, between Patrick Sharp having an appendectomy and Derrick Rose being in an "all in" commercial can we keep our star athletes away from the 2011 White Sox...thanks.

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QUOTE (kev211 @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 10:40 PM)
f*** the players, f*** the owners. That is all.

I can agree with this. No one wants to take the 47% side of the split... Why is the obvious 50/50 split not just happening and then we can all watch the continued growth of D-Rose?!!??!!?!?!??!

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 08:16 AM)
I'd be curious to see what the owners are asking for at this stage and what the players are willing to give.

 

Players walked back from a 57% share to a 53% share. Owners want "50/50" but only after getting $300M first, which would make it more like a 47% share for the players.

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 08:30 AM)
Players walked back from a 57% share to a 53% share. Owners want "50/50" but only after getting $300M first, which would make it more like a 47% share for the players.

 

Would it be a hard cap? Would there be salary give backs immediately?

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 08:48 AM)
Would it be a hard cap? Would there be salary give backs immediately?

 

"Hard cap is off the table" according to some Tribune reporter on M&H this morning. Don't know about salary give-backs but they did talk about that being a possibility. Increased revenue sharing almost a certainty.

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With nearly all of $8 billion gap closed, season can be saved

 

Despite the intransigence of the owners in their goal of achieving profitability and a level playing field ... despite the players' almost religious zeal for guaranteed contracts and other perks achieved over the years ... and despite formidable external forces that threatened to implode the negotiations ... the NBA and the players association are only about $80 million a year apart on the economics of a new collective bargaining agreement, multiple people with knowledge of the deal told CBSSports.com.

 

In that group, the league -- sensing the opportunity for a deal was there -- proposed essentially a 50-50 split with no additional expense reductions over a seven-year proposal, with each side having the ability to opt out after the sixth year, two of the people said. This was the offer Stern described in his news conference Tuesday evening, one he and Silver thought would be enough to finally close the enormous gap between the two sides.

 

The league's offer, according to four people familiar with it, came in a range of 49-51 -- with 49 percent guaranteed and a cap of 51 percent, the sources said.

 

"There was a real opportunity to make progress," Stern said.

 

Stern told the players and Kessler that he was bringing this proposal to his owners in an attempt to sell it, making no bones about the fact that he would. In fact, Stern said in the news conference, he did sell it; the owners were prepared to sign off on this 49-51 percent band. With many of the most polarizing system issues resolved -- the league previously had relented on its the most severe version of its hard team salary cap, agreed to drop its pursuit of rollbacks on existing contracts and offered to retain the basic structure of max contracts -- the framework of a deal was in sight.

 

So while Hunter and Stern remained publicly entrenched in the economic positions of their most recent formal proposals -- with the players asking for 53 percent and the league offering effectively 47 -- the reality is this: the gap has closed to 2 percentage points of BRI, the difference between the midpoint of the two offers, or stated differently, the value of one Gilbert Arenas.

 

Much more detail in this fantastic article.

 

 

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http://www.csnchicago.com/10/04/11/Bulls-d...tm_medium=email

 

Bulls' draft pick Mirotic opens up in interview

 

By Aggrey Sam

CSNChicago.com Bulls Insider

 

Unlike his fellow 2011 first-rounder Jimmy Butler, who played just up the road at Milwaukee's Marquette University in the Big East Conference, not much is known about Bulls draft pick Nikola Mirotic.

 

The 6-foot-10 forward revealed he was pleased by the Bulls' decision to draft him in a recent interview by Spain-based basketball news outlet HoopsHype.com.

 

"I was thrilled by the Chicago option. I had talked with them and I was thrilled and attracted by this possibility. So I stayed in the draft because of Chicago," said Mirotic, who told the site he learned of the Bulls' interest "maybe two to three weeks before the draft."

 

"You can never be 100 percent sure, but I kind of knew they were going to pick me."

 

Since the draft, Mirotic hasn't second-guessed his decision to remain in the draft.

 

"I was very happy. I spoke with [bulls director of international scouting] Ivica Dukan, who’s Croatian, and I was very thrilled. I think it’s a team that’s growing and has a lot of young players. Time will tell exactly when I go over there or if I go. Right now, I’m happy and I want to reach my goals here," he continued. "They have a great history and they are building a great team. Of course, I like the coach and the manager is Croatian and I’m familiar with him. So my decision to stay in the draft was perfect.

 

"I re-signed for five years with an NBA out. We’ll see what happens. I still can’t tell if I’m leaving in two, three, four or five years. I’m thinking about this year right now. I can’t tell how long I’m going to stay," added the Real Madrid forward, who did not play on Spain's gold-medalist EuroBasket squad, as the champions opted to use Thunder forward Serge Ibaka as their team's allotted naturalized citizen. "I would like to make that jump to the NBA."

 

As for his NBA readiness, Mirotic takes on a humble approach, despite having garnered rave reviews for his continued development over the past year and change.

 

"I see myself as a power forward, but one that can play outside and shoot the three, go to the hole," said Mirotic, the MVP of the FIBA Under-20 European Championships for titlist Spain.

 

"It’s been a super important and key year for me because I’ve made a lot of progress. I’ve done things real well. But this has to be just the beginning for me. I know I can keep improving. I’m working on it and I expect bigger things for myself," the 20-year-old, whose parents hail from Montenegro and Spain, continued. "Last year I worked real well and [current Lakers assistant coach] Ettore Messina helped me. This year, there’s a lot of expectations on me. I have to keep improving in several areas--most notably defense and some tactical stuff. Time will tell, but I hope I can help [Real Madrid] any way I can.

 

"I always think team first. Our goal is to contend for every title. We didn’t start in the best possible way at the Supercup, we couldn’t win it, but we have the ACB League, the Cup, the Euroleague," he added. "As for myself, I don’t know what to tell you. Being 20, you can’t just focus on improving one or two things. I have to improve in every area."

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 10:46 AM)
If they are really that close, it will get done very quickly.

I really don't have the impression that they're this close. If they were, they'd be meeting like crazy to save the regular season opening. They're not.

 

I think there's a real big competitive balance issue that the owners are trying to figure out.

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