Balta1701 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 NBA Players union starting moves towards decertification, and publicly leaking stories that they're moving that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Michael Jordan is leading a group of 10-14 owners who intend to vote against any cba agreement with the 50/50 revenue split the league already offered. They are unwilling to go past 47. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 4, 2011 Author Share Posted November 4, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 4, 2011 -> 06:35 PM) Michael Jordan is leading a group of 10-14 owners who intend to vote against any cba agreement with the 50/50 revenue split the league already offered. They are unwilling to go past 47. That sound you hear? That is the NBA season circling the drain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 28, 2011 -> 02:42 PM) Starting lineup: PG - Watson SG - Brewer SF - Deng (who will average 48.5 mpg) PF - Taj C - Asik And this on Sundays... maybe Ozzie will come coach basketball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 1999 was a pretty awful season of basketball because so many players became fat and out of shape, drug addicts sadly emerged, and some careers were ruined. You know the same will happen this year as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 (edited) INDIANAPOLIS — A charity game involving NBA players scheduled for Sunday in New Castle, Ind., was canceled at the last minute because of the possibility that the lockout could end. A release from the event's organizers says many of the players scheduled to participate were advised to prepare for the NBA and the players' association reaching an agreement. The "King of the Castle" event was to pit the Knox Indy Pro-Am League stars against Mario Chalmers' Rio All-Stars. Washington's John Wall, Memphis' Zach Randolph and Los Angeles' Eric Gordon were on the list of expected participants. NBA owners and players negotiated with federal mediator George Cohen on Saturday, after the meeting Derek Fisher commented. Today was another sad day for our fans, for arena workers, our parking lot attendants, our vendors. Very frustrating, sad day," Fisher added. "We, for sure, unequivocally, made good faith efforts to try to get this deal done tonight. And we're at a loss for why we could not close it out." So much for fans and charity. I hardly think all I's will be dotted before Sunday is over Edited November 6, 2011 by Soxfest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Sounds like things are teetering on the edge of breaking down. Commissioner David Stern gave NBA players an offer and a deadline: Accept a chance to earn up to 51 percent of basketball-related income by Wednesday or get ready for a deal that's a whole lot worse. He wouldn't call it an ultimatum, but it didn't sit well with the union. "The players will not be intimidated," attorney Jeffrey Kessler said early Sunday after eight hours of negotiations stretched late into the night. "They want to play, they want a season, but they are not going to sacrifice the future of all NBA players under these types of threats of intimidation. It's not happening on Derek Fisher's watch; it's not happening on Billy Hunter's watch; it's not happening on the watch of this executive committee." Kessler said the proposal was really 50.2 percent for the players and called the chance of them ever reaching 51 percent a "fraud" and an "illusion." If players don't agree to it by Wednesday, Stern said they would get a deal that would guarantee them just 47 percent of BRI and call for a flex salary cap. "We hope that this juxtaposition will cause the union to assess its position and accept the deal," Stern said. Thus ended another frustrating day, one that puts a lengthy 2011-12 season in doubt. Sources close to the decertification movement told ESPN.com's Marc Stein on Sunday that the players and agents involved in that push hope to have the requisite signed petition from 30 percent of the league's work force calling for a decertification vote -- an estimated 130 players -- by Tuesday. "We intend to move fast," one source said. Once signatures are collected from 30 percent of the players, that petition is filed with the National Labor Relations Board. The NLRB could then take an estimated 45 days to verify the petition and schedule an actual decertification vote. Disbanding the union requires a simple majority of players voting for decertification, but the union would continue to exist while the NLRB is arranging the vote and thus could theoretically continue negotiations with the league before the Players Association is dissolved. "I've been ready to sign a decertification petition since July?" Nets guard Deron Williams tweeted Saturday. "Can't believe we are just now going this route! SMH." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 God damnit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 This is like the LeBron chase all over again. So much bad info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 7, 2011 -> 08:49 AM) This is like the LeBron chase all over again. So much bad info. You have some reason to believe that progress is really happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 7, 2011 -> 07:56 AM) You have some reason to believe that progress is really happening? It was just the day before that they were so close, they shut down a charity game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 At least two times now the talks have broken down and one side has straight up left the room. Each time they come out and say they're done, and 4 days later they're talking again. I just can't believe this s*** didn't start back in June. They could have saved a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 7, 2011 -> 07:49 AM) This is like the LeBron chase all over again. So much bad info. Absolutely. I'm convinced they're just making as much stuff up as possible, someone's going to be right eventually and then they can claim they "broke" the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 7, 2011 -> 08:59 AM) Absolutely. I'm convinced they're just making as much stuff up as possible, someone's going to be right eventually and then they can claim they "broke" the story. This is kinda how everything is with all sports these days. Tons and tons and tons of bulls*** tweets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Yeah, twitter has ruined sports "reporting" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Player's basically say "f*** that offer"... this season is so close to toast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 David Stern's "Take it or leave it" deadline is in 5 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Deadline passed, negotiations still ongoing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 I won't get my hopes up, because it will just result in rich people not wanting to make a smaller percentage to play games and to own teams that play games. It will result in rich people depriving me of Derrick Rose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 6 hours of negotiations, no agreement, sounds like the players budged some on the BRI but they want looser luxury tax rules in reply. No idea if the owners actually pulled the last offer as threatened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 (edited) Meeting just ended. Two press conferences tonight... f*** Link for the press conferences: http://www.nba.com/home/live1/ Edited November 10, 2011 by Felix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 QUOTE (Felix @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 12:02 AM) Meeting just ended. Two press conferences tonight... f*** Link for the press conferences: http://www.nba.com/home/live1/ Stern on whether or not they resolved anything today: "Nothing was worked out today" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 QUOTE (Felix @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 12:08 AM) Stern on whether or not they resolved anything today: "Nothing was worked out today" Meeting again at 11 am eastern tomorrow... Seriously, this league is f***in killing me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Optimal time for a press conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 12:11 AM) Optimal time for a press conference. The time doesn't really matter, considering the media was there for the entire day waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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