Dick Allen Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 10:03 PM) Over like 20 years. That's how desperate he is for funds, he's willing to give up any tv revenue growth over 2 decades. He's getting $385 million upfront. $150 million would go to his divorce. The team gets an immediate $235 million shot in the arm. He'd be sitting pretty. McCourt is probably the only owner Bud wouldn't allow this. McCourt is most likely an ass, but Bud and his brothers approved him for membership. Now they should treat him like everyone else. Edited June 29, 2011 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 11:05 PM) He's getting $385 million upfront. $150 million would go to his divorce. The team gets an immediate $235 million shot in the arm. He'd be sitting pretty. McCourt is probably the only owner Bud wouldn't allow this. McCourt is most likely an ass, but Bud and his brothers approved him for membership. Now they should treat him like everyone else. I doubt they'd approve this sort of cash pullout and debt accumulation for any team. MLB has rules on debt accumulation and the dodgers blew through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 10:13 PM) I doubt they'd approve this sort of cash pullout and debt accumulation for any team. MLB has rules on debt accumulation and the dodgers blew through it. Where is the additional debt here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 10:13 PM) I doubt they'd approve this sort of cash pullout and debt accumulation for any team. MLB has rules on debt accumulation and the dodgers blew through it. Where is the additional debt here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 11:19 PM) Where is the additional debt here? What else would you call money given out early in exchange for an extremely long term contract. Might not be booked as debt but that's all it is. Fox is loaning on future tv revenues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeavyTime Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 10:21 PM) Where is the additional debt here? Unearned Revenue for the Accounting 101 guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeavyTime Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 10:25 PM) They wouldn't owe Fox anything. Fox would still owe them. Its only about 2 years of the Fox deal. http://www.investopedia.com/terms/u/unearn...p#axzz1QdEo90ov "When an individual or company receives money for a service or product that has yet to be fulfilled. For example, prepayment on a lease contract - the revenue is a liability until it has been earned." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (PeavyTime @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 10:27 PM) http://www.investopedia.com/terms/u/unearn...p#axzz1QdEo90ov "When an individual or company receives money for a service or product that has yet to be fulfilled. For example, prepayment on a lease contract - the revenue is a liability until it has been earned." GAAP'd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (PeavyTime @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 10:24 PM) Unearned Revenue for the Accounting 101 guys. Think of all the debt Dunn, Rios and Pierre accumulate every time they cash a paycheck. Just a play on words. Unearned Revenue is considered a liability until it is earned. Depending how the contract is structured it might be "earned" fairly quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (PeavyTime @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 10:27 PM) http://www.investopedia.com/terms/u/unearn...p#axzz1QdEo90ov "When an individual or company receives money for a service or product that has yet to be fulfilled. For example, prepayment on a lease contract - the revenue is a liability until it has been earned." I know what it is, but unless you see the terms of the agreement you don't know when that $385 million is considered earned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 10:21 PM) Where is the additional debt here? i cant post the article because my stupid phone wont let me select the site address, but there is an article on cnn money that a baseball exec says the dodgers have a 500 million dollar debt. its called "the dodgers have a debt problem" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 10:39 PM) i cant post the article because my stupid phone wont let me select the site address, but there is an article on cnn money that a baseball exec says the dodgers have a 500 million dollar debt. its called "the dodgers have a debt problem" Could be true, might be some exaggeration Bud had someone throw out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 10:52 PM) Could be true, might be some exaggeration Bud had someone throw out there. lol you obviously believe this is a bud conspiracy and thats all there is, so i guess this discussion is over. back to your regularly scheduled viciedo talk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 07:44 PM) Can someone just please give me the date that Viciedo can be called up to give us another year of control? It's the only thing I am focused on right now. ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 This has really turned in to "Where Would He Play V2.0" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 10:22 PM) ....... July 3rd according to Beatnik and Kalapse, let's say July 5th to be on the safe side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 10:26 PM) July 3rd according to Beatnik and Kalapse, let's say July 5th to be on the safe side. If he isn't called up between the 3rd and the 7th - heads are gonna roll on this site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 I am starting to believe that the only way that Viciedo gets up is if KW can move CQ. If JP is taken out of the lineup Ozzie is going to play De Aza or Lilli in LF to get his speedy leadoff guy at the top of the line-up. Dunn is not getting benched in favor of anyone. Viciedo could swap places with Morel but it sounds like the organization is committed to him being an OF. I think KW has a couple of deals up his sleeve, I think he will move one of the SP's (Danks) rather than relegating one to the bullpen and will move Quentin to open a spot for Viciedo and in making one of those moves will include Pierre and bring back another LF candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 09:34 AM) I am starting to believe that the only way that Viciedo gets up is if KW can move CQ. I seriously doubt that. He'll be up next week and wind up playing about 2 games per week the rest of the way with a PH here or there mixed in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 KW's goal is to have an outfield of Viciedo, Rios and Quentin next year. Another one of his goals is to have Rios leadoff next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 WOw at those numbers above. How the f*** can you not inject your BEST minor league player who also happens to be one of the best hitters if not the best in his league into your offense which is muddling around at league avg. It makes ZERO f***ING SENSE. I know KW wants him up, so when is it the time when he overrules Ozzie>? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 10:55 AM) WOw at those numbers above. How the f*** can you not inject your BEST minor league player who also happens to be one of the best hitters if not the best in his league into your offense which is muddling around at league avg. It makes ZERO f***ING SENSE. I know KW wants him up, so when is it the time when he overrules Ozzie>? The situation is mind-boggling to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 What's really scary about Viciedo is his numbers after April when he was coming back from that fractured thumb. May - .349 / .410 / .615 / 1.025 June - .377 / .400 / .547 / .947 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 11:14 AM) What's really scary about Viciedo is his numbers after April when he was coming back from that fractured thumb. May - .349 / .410 / .615 / 1.025 June - .377 / .400 / .547 / .947 "But where would he play?!?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 I really don't understand how Viciedo isn't a top 15-20 prospect in all of baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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