Steve9347 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 02:52 AM) I know you're not supposed to speak this way about "The Great One", but Wayne Gretzky at center in the NHL now wouldn't be great. Or even good. And Patrick Kane is no Wayne Gretzky. No matter the era, Gretzky would have been a beast. The NHL has much more of a dedication to working out and getting big, just look at how large Sid the Kid has gotten since he came into the league. Do you think Wayne Gretzky wouldn't have access to the same nutrition and workout methods all current NHLers have? He'd have been amazing no matter the era, because he was better than everyone. Sure, he's not getting 200+ points or 90+ goals in a season in today's NHL, but he'd be rocking 120-140 points in his prime. Today's NHL is way more conducive to scoring than the late nineties (where 2 line passes were penalties, a foot in the crease nowhere near the play meant no goal, there was no such thing as obscruction calls), and at age 36 Gretzky still posted 97 points with the Rangers in said era. As for "Kane is no Gretzky"... no f***ing s***. No one said that, not even close. Kane's playmaking abilities were rated "top notch". However, Rock saying he was compared to Gretzky for that was just downright silly, ESPECIALLY when talking about Kaner's ability to play center. It was completely irrelevant. Hell, Paul Coffey had vision, that doesn't mean Kaner can play defense either. Edited September 28, 2011 by Steve9347 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 02:52 AM) I know you're not supposed to speak this way about "The Great One", but Wayne Gretzky at center in the NHL now wouldn't be great. Or even good. Jesus.. lets not get carried away here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 11:34 PM) Not the mid 80's anymore. He can pass, I'm aware, but his defense is awful, he's too soft to play the middle of the ice, and he won't win faceoffs. It won't last, so I'm not worried, but it's not a good fit. Trying to check the other line's center and help out below the dots would be a nightmare. Wasnt the NHL more physical back then? We already have 2 dynamic 2-way centers on the roster so its not like his role would be to stop the opposing top lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Elbow to the head in a f***ing preseason game you p****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulokis Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 09:28 PM) Elbow to the head in a f***ing preseason game you p****. That hit really deserves a suspension. No need for that kind hit to the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 I like kanes line. I'm on board for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 10:40 AM) Wasnt the NHL more physical back then? We already have 2 dynamic 2-way centers on the roster so its not like his role would be to stop the opposing top lines. No. You play a lot of minutes, you play against top lines throughout the game, those matchups happen, regardless of "role" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 09:28 PM) Elbow to the head in a f***ing preseason game you p****. Mike Babcock's comment after the game was very disappointing. I know you have to try to back your guy, but he basically placed blame on Ben Smith for "toe-dragging" and not protecting his head. Bulls***, Mike. Would you blame your guy if the situation was reversed? Doubtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (SoxAce @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 09:42 AM) Jesus.. lets not get carried away here. He'd score a s***load of points obviously since he's Wayne friggin Gretzky. He'd also get killed on defense and draws. Have to balance everything out. Kane actually looked good at center tonight, which I found to be quite discouraging because it means they'll probably do that bull s*** to start the regular season now. And Mike Babcock is a f***ing idiot. His comments after the game were laughable. I don't normally know Detroit as a team of dirty whiners, but that's what they looked like tonight. Which is especially bad because it was a meaningless preseason game! Edited September 29, 2011 by whitesoxfan101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 09:28 PM) Elbow to the head in a f***ing preseason game you p****. Hopefully the kid ends up being OK. That one will get filed away though. Too many goons on this squad for that one to not get paid back at a later date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Stalberg was injured as well. (rumor is potential ACL/MCL) If his and Smith's injury are serious, Hawks will be down 3 guys to start the season. (Carcillo 2 game suspension) Might see a couple of youth guys make the team to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 11:50 PM) No. You play a lot of minutes, you play against top lines throughout the game, those matchups happen, regardless of "role" I liked him in that role last night because Hossa and Brunette already back check well enough to cover up for his lack of physicality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 08:16 AM) Stalberg was injured as well. (rumor is potential ACL/MCL) If his and Smith's injury are serious, Hawks will be down 3 guys to start the season. (Carcillo 2 game suspension) Might see a couple of youth guys make the team to start. f***! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 08:58 AM) f***! Oh yeah, all Q said was "not good" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 08:16 AM) Stalberg was injured as well. (rumor is potential ACL/MCL) If his and Smith's injury are serious, Hawks will be down 3 guys to start the season. (Carcillo 2 game suspension) Might see a couple of youth guys make the team to start. Yeah, Stalberg is toast. We'll likely see some rooks on 9-game tryouts to start the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Stalberg out for 3 weeks Smith is day to day. Q says he is OK but they don't wanna put a timeline on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 12:49 PM) Stalberg out for 3 weeks Smith is day to day. Q says he is OK but they don't wanna put a timeline on it. Good news on Stalberg, and they should be very careful with Smith. Don't rush him out there after a head shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 QUOTE (The Critic @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 01:18 PM) Good news on Stalberg, and they should be very careful with Smith. Don't rush him out there after a head shot. I'm shocked on Stalberg. It might have been a blessing in disguise as all he does is skate, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 07:59 AM) Hopefully the kid ends up being OK. That one will get filed away though. Too many goons on this squad for that one to not get paid back at a later date. Problem is Rockford would have to file it away for Grand Rapids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 8 games for Brendan Smith. 3 preseason and 5 regular season. Of course, when he gets sent to the Griffins, it won't matter. Babcock said the suspension was extreme. Of course he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Sep 30, 2011 -> 11:04 AM) 8 games for Brendan Smith. 3 preseason and 5 regular season. Of course, when he gets sent to the Griffins, it won't matter. Babcock said the suspension was extreme. Of course he did. Yes, when he gets to the Griffins it won't matter, but upon any call-up at any point in his career he's not playing the first 5 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 CSNCClark Chris Clark RT @TramyersCSN: #Blackhawks assign Jimmy Hayes, Marcus Kruger, Peter LeBlanc, Brandon Pirri and Dylan Olsen to Rockford IceHogs today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Brenden Saad among those who have survived the big cuts. 4 more cuts need to be made, and one of them will be Emery vs Salak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 http://espn.go.com/chicago/nhl/story/_/id/...s?asid=115460a6 The Chicago Blackhawks and second-round pick Brandon Saad are in contract talks, according to a source familiar with the situation, which means the 18-year-old winger from Pittsburgh is likely to break training camp with the team. More On The Blackhawks For all the latest on the Blackhawks, check out Jesse Rogers' blog on ESPNChicago.com. Blog Saad has been the biggest surprise in camp, easily outlasting most other prospects, including two players drafted ahead of him in June's entry-level draft. Saad played in six of seven preseason games and impressed coaches with his skills and hockey smarts. The 6-foot-1, 203-pounder also possesses an NHL-ready body and scored the game-winning goal in the 3-2 victory over Washington on Sept. 23. A spot on the roster may have opened up for Saad when forwards Ben Smith and Viktor Stalberg were injured in Wednesday's 4-3 victory over the Detroit Red Wings. Saad needs to sign an entry-level deal before he is eligible to play in the NHL. When he does, he can play up to nine games this season without it counting as a year on his contract. If he plays fewer than nine games he can be sent back to his junior team, the Saginaw Spirit of the OHL, otherwise he has to stay with the Hawks for the entire season. Because of his age he's not eligible to play for the Hawks' minor league affiliate, Rockford of the AHL. Expect a deal to be worked out for Saad by Tuesday, the source said. Rosters have to be finalized by Wednesday afternoon. Jesse Rogers covers the Blackhawks for ESPNChicago.com and ESPN 1000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Pirri was tearing it up in the pre-season, right? I don't get games on TV anymore here at school, but IIRC, he had at least 2 or 3 goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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