southsider2k5 Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 So does that mean the trade isn't happening or not? I'm confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 06:47 PM) I do watch games, but you can look at stats, too. You simple can't be bad defensively and put up a +28. He is much better defensively than his reputation said when the Hawks signed him. Is he a top-10 defensive defensemen in the NHL? No. But he didn't hurt us this year in the least. Plus/minus is the most overrated stat in hockey anyway. In his own end, playing defense, he is indeed bad. His coverage is awful, and he's soft as hell behind the line and in front of the net. His puck moving once he has it is good, as is his play in the neutral and offensive zones, but actual defense in his zone, not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 07:03 PM) So does that mean the trade isn't happening or not? I'm confused. There's mixed reports. Some say he was asked last night to waive his NTC and he said no. Others say he never declined anything. Others are saying that there a numerous teams in play, including the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 07:07 PM) There's mixed reports. Some say he was asked last night to waive his NTC and he said no. Others say he never declined anything. Others are saying that there a numerous teams in play, including the Canucks. So this could really be happening? Holy crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Also appears that Brouwer has been on the table all day. May be dealt to Ottawa for a 2nd rounder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 06:51 PM) You can't deny that he helped the Blackhawks immensely when he came back though. Well, yeah, which means he's better than John Scott, Nick Boynton, and Jordan Hendry...never denied that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Brouwer to the Capitals for the 26th pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 08:22 PM) Brouwer to the Capitals for the 26th pick. Wow. That's higher than I would have thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 08:27 PM) Wow. That's higher than I would have thought. Considering they were basically asking for a 2nd, that's petty damn good value. They must have some big plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Hawks pick Mark McNeill with 18th overall pick. Compared to Manny Malhotra. Physically ready at 18 years old according to Pierre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Someone probably playing next year in the Jrs I take it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilCan Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Wow, what value the Hawks got for a 7th-round draftee in Troy Brouwer years later, eh? Not too shabby. Interested to see who the Hawks will now pick at 26. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilCan Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Brouwer is pretty replaceable as a power forward by Beach, so that was a great value trade by the Hawks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 09:16 PM) Brouwer is pretty replaceable as a power forward by Beach, so that was a great value trade by the Hawks. Beach has a LONG way to go. I'm fine moving Brouwer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilCan Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 http://www.nhl.com/ice/draftprospectdetail...437&tab=scr NHL Central Scouting’s Blair MacDonald “One thing I like about him is that he's a right-handed center, which is good to have. He's really composed and has a real pro-style game. He has a nice touch, can dish, and has nice, soft passes. His on-ice awareness is very good and he's paid attention to detail at both ends of the rink. He has good defensive-zone coverage as well as being offensive at the other end. All around I think he's got a real solid game I think his offensive game will improve the older he gets and the more confident he gets. I think he'll be a better offensive player than he's showing right now. He's good at both ends of the rink. He comes down low and helps out defensively.” Port McNeil GM Bruno Campese “He's one of those kids that has the ability to do so many different things, he's got so much upside to him. ... He's a powerful skater and has great hockey sense. He's got very good basic skills and he's got the ability to be a real tough person to play against. He's got the mental capabilities to understand the game as well . . . I really believe he has all the attributes. He's got certain gifts that other players just don't have. That really bodes well for playing in the NHL.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilCan Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Tweets a'flyin that Soups has agreed to waive his NTC to go to Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilCan Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie CHI's Brian Campbell has agreed to waive his no trade to go to the Florida Panthers. Details to follow. 2 minutes ago Favorite Undo Retweet Reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 QUOTE (OilCan @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 09:36 PM) TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie CHI's Brian Campbell has agreed to waive his no trade to go to the Florida Panthers. Details to follow. 2 minutes ago Favorite Undo Retweet Reply YESSSS!!!!!!!!!!! So much cap room freed up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Dale Tallon, Chicago LOVES you so much right now! Thanks for taking the horrible contract you originally signed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 09:39 PM) Dale Tallon, Chicago LOVES you so much right now! Thanks for taking the horrible contract you originally signed! Seems to be poetic justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Rostislav Olesz is one of the guys coming back to the Hawks. 25 year old F, 7th overall pick in 2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilCan Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 phillip danault, the hawks new lw pick, is on nhl radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilCan Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 per Tim Sassone: Winger Rostislav Olesz and center Steven Reinprecht coming back from Florida for Campbell, per multiple sources. #blackhawks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilCan Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 09:41 PM) Rostislav Olesz is one of the guys coming back to the Hawks. 25 year old F, 7th overall pick in 2004. I like it!!! The Big O! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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