ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jan 28, 2012 -> 02:54 PM) Gary Bettman has spewed a lot of bulls*** in his career, but his claim today that shootouts have a 70 to 80 percent approval rating among fans might top the list. I honestly can't think of a single hockey fan I know that likes them and I know quite a few. I like them, for regular season games, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jan 28, 2012 -> 02:19 PM) I like them, for regular season games, that is. Same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jan 28, 2012 -> 02:19 PM) I like them, for regular season games, that is. I like the shootout better than the tie. I do wish they would go to the 3-2-1 point system with OTW's being worth less than a regulation W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 108.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Patrick Kane's superman gag was awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jan 28, 2012 -> 10:46 PM) Patrick Kane's superman gag was awesome. I thought it was lame. And someone needs to tell him that if NBC wants to mic you up then converse with the commentators and stop saying "you'll have to wait and see". He had the personality of a dead moth out there. I know hockey is pretty limited in what it can do for an events challenge but these festivities are pretty played out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 QUOTE (zenryan @ Jan 29, 2012 -> 01:11 AM) I thought it was lame. And someone needs to tell him that if NBC wants to mic you up then converse with the commentators and stop saying "you'll have to wait and see". He had the personality of a dead moth out there. I know hockey is pretty limited in what it can do for an events challenge but these festivities are pretty played out. I disagree w/ everything in this post. I thought his Superman thing was hilarious and very cool. And him saying "wait and see" actually brought out a lot of excitement in my non-hockey friends who were watching. They were all saying "I wonder what it's going to be! I'm pumped now". And I think NHL now has the best All-star events. The draft is a very cool way to make teams, the skills competition is great and rivals the HR Derby for me, and all-star games across all sports are pretty lame, but at least it's not like the NFL's where no one does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jan 29, 2012 -> 02:58 AM) I disagree w/ everything in this post. I thought his Superman thing was hilarious and very cool. And him saying "wait and see" actually brought out a lot of excitement in my non-hockey friends who were watching. They were all saying "I wonder what it's going to be! I'm pumped now". And I think NHL now has the best All-star events. The draft is a very cool way to make teams, the skills competition is great and rivals the HR Derby for me, and all-star games across all sports are pretty lame, but at least it's not like the NFL's where no one does it. Ya, the NHL is doing it really well. The NFL has by far the worst of the all star festivities. The NBA's ASG is normally extremely entertaining but the dunk contest has become an absolute joke and there is no fan interaction. MLB's voting is a joke, the game is "meaningful" for no reason, and the HR derby is very hit and miss. NHL has the draft, with great access to the players through social media, and the skills competitions are actually fun to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jan 29, 2012 -> 02:23 AM) Ya, the NHL is doing it really well. The NFL has by far the worst of the all star festivities. The NBA's ASG is normally extremely entertaining but the dunk contest has become an absolute joke and there is no fan interaction. MLB's voting is a joke, the game is "meaningful" for no reason, and the HR derby is very hit and miss. NHL has the draft, with great access to the players through social media, and the skills competitions are actually fun to watch. The NHL skills competition blows away anything the rest of the sports do. It used to be the NBA dunk contest, until it turned into a night off for the guys you actually want to see. The HR derby can be there some years. And I got a laugh out of the superman thing after I saw the angle from behind the goal and actually saw the shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 QUOTE (zenryan @ Jan 29, 2012 -> 12:11 AM) I thought it was lame. And someone needs to tell him that if NBC wants to mic you up then converse with the commentators and stop saying "you'll have to wait and see". He had the personality of a dead moth out there. I know hockey is pretty limited in what it can do for an events challenge but these festivities are pretty played out. Limited? It can and does more than any other sport by a wide margin. They've also changed up events over the years, so obviously you haven't been watching. Also, the HR derby is beyond boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Jan 28, 2012 -> 08:58 AM) Don't mind the deal at all... Connelly wasn't going to be much for the Hawks and Morrison is a good leader but slow as hell! He'll fit with the other slow, old guys Bowman is acquiring these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 28, 2012 -> 07:30 PM) I like the shootout better than the tie. I do wish they would go to the 3-2-1 point system with OTW's being worth less than a regulation W. I want fewer points awarded, not more. I see it like this: Regulation win = 2 points OT or shootout win = 1 point Loss = 0 points. I don't believe a team should ever be awarded points for a loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 QUOTE (The Critic @ Jan 30, 2012 -> 09:42 AM) I want fewer points awarded, not more. I see it like this: Regulation win = 2 points OT or shootout win = 1 point Loss = 0 points. I don't believe a team should ever be awarded points for a loss. I could get behind that too. I just hate that an OT win is worth as much as a Regulation one. It really makes the last 5 minutes or so of regulation worthless, as teams shut it down to get the guaranteed point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 The shootouts are exciting but it annoys me that a whole season can come down to something as random as the shootout. I agree that they need to change the point structure. 3 for a win, 2 for an OT Win, & 1 for an OT loss would make more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Apparently there were some Tim Thomas/Viktor Stalberg rumors that were squashed today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 QUOTE (The Critic @ Jan 30, 2012 -> 10:42 AM) I want fewer points awarded, not more. I see it like this: Regulation win = 2 points OT or shootout win = 1 point Loss = 0 points. I don't believe a team should ever be awarded points for a loss. I dont think a team should be penalized for losing a shootout. That would be like allowing baseball game to be decided by a HR derby after 10 innings of a tie game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jan 30, 2012 -> 07:30 PM) Apparently there were some Tim Thomas/Viktor Stalberg rumors that were squashed today. The media trying to create stories instead of just reporting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 QUOTE (zenryan @ Jan 30, 2012 -> 08:26 PM) The media trying to create stories instead of just reporting them. Ya, that doesn't make any sense for Boston, no matter how much you think Thomas' political tirade created "division in the locker room", even despite his age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jan 30, 2012 -> 06:30 PM) Apparently there were some Tim Thomas/Viktor Stalberg rumors that were squashed today. I saw that. It was so absurd I didn't even post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (The Critic @ Jan 30, 2012 -> 09:42 AM) I want fewer points awarded, not more. I see it like this: Regulation win = 2 points OT or shootout win = 1 point Loss = 0 points. I don't believe a team should ever be awarded points for a loss. There needs to be less points (well or at least equal points for every game...do 3) but you absolutely cannot give a team zero points for losing in a shootout...unless regulation losses are worth -1 or something. A team that wins in regulation shouldn't earn as much as a team that wins in a shootout, so the same should be the case for the loser. Edited January 31, 2012 by IlliniKrush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Jan 30, 2012 -> 10:22 PM) There needs to be less points (well or at least equal points for every game...do 3) but you absolutely cannot give a team zero points for losing in a shootout...unless regulation losses are worth -1 or something. A team that wins in regulation shouldn't earn as much as a team that wins in a shootout, so the same should be the case for the loser. I think the only options in making regulation wins more valuable is to either bump it up to 3 points (which I dont like because it will be too much) or start giving half points. Regulation Win--3 points OT/SO Win--2 points OT/SO Loss--1 point Loss--0 points or Regulation Win--2 points OT/SO Win--1 point OT/SO Loss-- 0.5 point Loss---0 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Captain Serious returns this evening and Brendan Morrison makes his debut in #17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 31, 2012 -> 12:49 PM) Captain Serious returns this evening and Brendan Morrison makes his debut in #17. Sharpie is questionable, Morrison will be on a line with Hoss & Sharp (if he plays) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 QUOTE (zenryan @ Jan 30, 2012 -> 08:23 PM) I dont think a team should be penalized for losing a shootout. That would be like allowing baseball game to be decided by a HR derby after 10 innings of a tie game. A loss is a loss. I cannot see any situation where a losing team deserves points. It diminishes the value of a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 QUOTE (The Critic @ Jan 31, 2012 -> 01:32 PM) A loss is a loss. I cannot see any situation where a losing team deserves points. It diminishes the value of a win. A loss is a loss unless it's in a gimmicky skills competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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