2011-2012 NHL Thread

[Steve9347]

And soon enough it will cost him.

Sadly, probably not.

[southsider2k5]

Sadly, probably not.

 

Someone will target him because of name/money or both.

[Steve9347]

Totally. He's rich, famous, and 23. He should be in the Phillipines circumcising little boys with Tim Tebow. How dare he go to a party during the offseason? And there's no more trustworthy source than anonymous e-mails to Deadspin from drunken college kids, let's take it all in as facts.

Rich and famous and passed out at a college bar. Yup, that Kaner, just totally doing normal things.

[StrangeSox]

Totally. He's rich, famous, and 23. He should be in the Phillipines circumcising little boys with Tim Tebow. How dare he go to a party during the offseason? And there's no more trustworthy source than anonymous e-mails to Deadspin from drunken college kids, let's take it all in as facts.

 

There's a difference between partying and even getting black-out drunk and (reportedly) being the type of out-of-control, can't-drink-for-s*** douchebag Kane is.

[southsider2k5]

There's a difference between partying and even getting black-out drunk and (reportedly) being the type of out-of-control, can't-drink-for-s*** douchebag Kane is.

 

Winner.

[StrangeSox]

e.g. while everyone has a good laugh over the Neckbeard whiskey-chugging pictures, Orton never acted the way Kane does and wasn't treated the same way Kane is. And let's not pretend it's just a few random college kids for sources of his douchebaggery.

[Steve9347]

e.g. while everyone has a good laugh over the Neckbeard whiskey-chugging pictures, Orton never acted the way Kane does and wasn't treated the same way Kane is. And let's not pretend it's just a few random college kids for sources of his douchebaggery.

Yeah, Orton, as far as I can recall, never assaulted a taxi driver. Now Kaner is blackout and allegedly assaulting women - mindless chubby 21 year old college girls. He's black-out evil.

[LittleHurt05]

Yeah, Orton, as far as I can recall, never assaulted a taxi driver. Now Kaner is blackout and allegedly assaulting women - mindless chubby 21 year old college girls. He's black-out evil.

 

If you are this upset about Kaner, then you must be furious that the Bears would trade for Brandon Marshall. His record makes Kaner looks like a saint.

[Steve9347]

If you are this upset about Kaner, then you must be furious that the Bears would trade for Brandon Marshall. His record makes Kaner looks like a saint.

When Kane starts producing like a top-5 player at his position, I will be more forgiving. Also, at least Marshall displays some remorse and has been diagnosed with a condition that can be to blame. Kane is just a raging douchebag.

[clyons]

If you are this upset about Kaner, then you must be furious that the Bears would trade for Brandon Marshall. His record makes Kaner looks like a saint.

 

Although they both have been in trouble (specifically regarding women), that's not really a valid comparison. For one thing, Marshall has been diagnosed with (and has acknowledged) a disease for which he undergoes treatment. Kaner's in apparent denial of his.

Edited May 15, 2012 by PlaySumFnJurny

[IlliniKrush]

Not everyone can be a 50 year old trapped in a 20-something-year-old body.

PARTY DUDE LET'S GO CHOKE SOME b****ES!

 

There's something different between getting black out drunk and getting black out drunk and choking a woman and harassing police officers. 23 =/= 21 - there's a time when responsibility matters.

Steve,

 

Responsibility means nothing to Joe, we've clearly established that. He's the anti-responsibility. Hopefully he doesn't look to us to bail him out of jail.

 

As far as it costing him, it already has. His point totals the last 3 years? 88, 73, 66.

[RockRaines]

There's something different between getting black out drunk and getting black out drunk and choking a woman and harassing police officers. 23 =/= 21 - there's a time when responsibility matters.

Once again, where is this evidence?

 

I was at the frat party Pat Kane attended on Saturday afternoon. First off, he wasn’t even supposed to be there, he had been hooking up with the frat president’s girlfriend, a junior, over the past year, and had even gone so far as to jet her around the country. Despite this, he showed up anyway and proceeded to get blackout drunk. Later, he relentlessly began hitting on a girl who wanted nothing to do with him—his response to this denial, attempt to choke her, which is what ultimately got him booted.

 

First, this guy wasnt even in the fraternity that had the party, I can tell by his language and reference to a "frat." Second, if he wasnt in said fraternity, how would he know Kane (a guy who lives hours away from madison) is "dating" the presidents gf? How does he even know who the president of the fraternity is? Those houses are HUGE in madison, unless the guy was very close to everyone in the house he didnt know who this person is. Most likely the kid had NOTHING to do with booting anyone from a party he wasnt a host of, so how did he know the exact reasoning, especially when he was most likely about as blacked out as everyone else there? Its a horrible game of telephone where everyone is reporting "facts" yet there is no actual sober police report, no pictures, no video, nothing that supports these claims. Is it really that hard to pick up your iphone and take a picture or video of someone like Kane doing these things?

Edited May 15, 2012 by RockRaines

[StrangeSox]

We do have evidence of douchebaggery from the cab incident.

[RockRaines]

We do have evidence of douchebaggery from the cab incident.

No, we have an alleged incident and the cab drivers lawyer saying it was overblown

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4389932

 

 

[southsider2k5]

Once again, where is this evidence?

 

 

 

First, this guy wasnt even in the fraternity that had the party, I can tell by his language and reference to a "frat." Second, if he wasnt in said fraternity, how would he know Kane (a guy who lives hours away from madison) is "dating" the presidents gf? How does he even know who the president of the fraternity is? Those houses are HUGE in madison, unless the guy was very close to everyone in the house he didnt know who this person is. Most likely the kid had NOTHING to do with booting anyone from a party he wasnt a host of, so how did he know the exact reasoning, especially when he was most likely about as blacked out as everyone else there? Its a horrible game of telephone where everyone is reporting "facts" yet there is no actual sober police report, no pictures, no video, nothing that supports these claims. Is it really that hard to pick up your iphone and take a picture or video of someone like Kane doing these things?

 

You don't think it is telling that NO ONE has denied it? Not Kane, not a lawyer, not a PR rep, not an agent, and most importantly not his employer?

[StrangeSox]

He's saying that calling it a robbery was overblown.

[RockRaines]

You don't think it is telling that NO ONE has denied it? Not Kane, not a lawyer, not a PR rep, not an agent, and most importantly not his employer?

WHy deny a bogus report on a website citing anonymous sources? That legitimizes said rumors and website. As a PR person I wouldn't issue a denial or statement without actual evidence which a this point looks like there isnt any.

 

Its more telling that NOBODY out of the hundreds at this party have any evidence of these actions. Every kid at Madison has a camera phone.

[southsider2k5]

WHy deny a bogus report on a website citing anonymous sources? That legitimizes said rumors and website. As a PR person I wouldn't issue a denial or statement without actual evidence which a this point looks like there isnt any.

 

Its more telling that NOBODY out of the hundreds at this party have any evidence of these actions. Every kid at Madison has a camera phone.

 

So no one standing up for Kane is a good thing?

[RockRaines]

So no one standing up for Kane is a good thing?

Standing up against what? You clearly ignored my actual point. There is no EVIDENCE that the kid did anything wrong other than going to a bar and party where there are picture of him drunk. What do the blackhawks have to refute?

[southsider2k5]

Standing up against what? You clearly ignored my actual point. There is no EVIDENCE that the kid did anything wrong other than going to a bar and party where there are picture of him drunk. What do the blackhawks have to refute?

 

It is better to let the local and national media smash the guy, again, and not defend one of your stars? This isn't CSI Wisconsin. He isn't on trial in a court of law. He is on trial in every media outlet across the country. Eyewitness testimony counts in the court of public opinion. Even in the limo incident the Hawks and Kane talked about it. Now no one is saying a word.

[RockRaines]

It is better to let the local and national media smash the guy, again, and not defend one of your stars. This isn't CSI Wisconsin? He isn't on trial in a court of law. He is on trial in every media outlet across the country. Eyewitness testimony counts in the court of public opinion. Even in the limo incident the Hawks and Kane talked about it. Now no one is saying a word.

Yes, because there were pictures/testimonies of those items happening (limo). Right now you have a blog website with anonymous statements with zero evidence pictures or otherwise. The Blackhawks arent going to issue a statement to bring more attention to something if it didnt actually happen, which by the day looks like the case. This story unless substantiated by actual witness statements or photo evidence will go away like other "rumored" stories on blogs. It seems to me like you are grasping at straws to make something true that right now looks like a total lie/rumor/telephone game sent in by equally drunk college kids who "heard" something from someone who was there.

[LittleHurt05]

As far as it costing him, it already has. His point totals the last 3 years? 88, 73, 66.

 

Because you know for a fact that he wasn't drinking before 2009 and just started right as his numbers declined. Even though his limo pics with the two 5's came out during his 88 point season. And he missed ten games during his 73 point season. And he was switching back & forth between a new position last season.

 

[southsider2k5]

Yes, because there were pictures/testimonies of those items happening (limo). Right now you have a blog website with anonymous statements with zero evidence pictures or otherwise. The Blackhawks arent going to issue a statement to bring more attention to something if it didnt actually happen, which by the day looks like the case. This story unless substantiated by actual witness statements or photo evidence will go away like other "rumored" stories on blogs. It seems to me like you are grasping at straws to make something true that right now looks like a total lie/rumor/telephone game sent in by equally drunk college kids who "heard" something from someone who was there.

 

It is much better to let one of your franchise players twist in the winds of the media, versus putting out a one lined denial? I don't buy that for a second. I think the grasping at straws here is trying to act like nothing happened, in what is becoming a pattern of drunken stupidity.

[IlliniKrush]

Because you know for a fact that he wasn't drinking before 2009 and just started right as his numbers declined. Even though his limo pics with the two 5's came out during his 88 point season. And he missed ten games during his 73 point season. And he was switching back & forth between a new position last season.

You know for a fact his antics have nothing to do with his decline in production, and this garbage season this year? Also, why did he miss 10 games? Some of them were for the "flu."

 

The Hawks were hesitant to sign him to a long term contract due to his drinking and partying issues.

 

 

[RockRaines]

It is much better to let one of your franchise players twist in the winds of the media, versus putting out a one lined denial? I don't buy that for a second. I think the grasping at straws here is trying to act like nothing happened, in what is becoming a pattern of drunken stupidity.

All you know is he went out drinking, are you against athletes getting drunk?