BigEdWalsh Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 QUOTE (oldsox @ Jun 18, 2011 -> 11:47 AM) Thanks for Boggs' minor league stats. I stand corrected on his age -- 24, not 26. And only two yrs in AAA. It does seem like they kept in low minors a bit long, likely due to lack of power. I don't remember who he replaced at third for Boston. I hope we don't overlook Kuhn for same reason. Boggs certainly worked hard at his craft. When criticized for lack of speed, he hired his own speed coach to help his baserunning. I loved watching him hit. He got a lot of walks, too. He won a bunch of consecutive batting championships.. On the coincidence side, did you notice Boggs spent time at both Bristol and Winston-Salem?? Did Boggs replace Carney Lansford? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted June 18, 2011 Author Share Posted June 18, 2011 Love me some Jimmy Gallagher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ Jun 18, 2011 -> 01:03 PM) Did Boggs replace Carney Lansford? Yes, good work. They overlapped one year, I believe. Lansford was another solid hitter, now hitting coach for the Rockies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Back to the original topic, here are some guys solidifying themselves as good prospects or becoming them: C. Marrero - Does nothing but hit. Great for an undrafted guy. His spits away from home are impressive. B. Short - Just rakes. T. Doyle - Projects as a 5th starter/swingman at best, but he's made some strides. D. Viciedo - He's put it all together. Definitely a Top 100 prospect. A. Rienzo - I think that the Sox organization is making him develop his offspeed pitches more, hence the high walk totals. I'd keep a close eye on his second half to see if he progresses. Really big upside, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 What about Silverio? Seem like he's hitting okay now at Kanny and assuming he really is 20 could be finding his stride. No clue about his defense though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Jun 18, 2011 -> 02:18 PM) C. Marrero - Does nothing but hit. Great for an undrafted guy. His spits away from home are impressive. Marrero was a draft and follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilCan Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Gallagher - the more he hits, he SHOULD be viewed at the very least as a viable bench option. I mean, the guy has hit at every level, and he has extra base power. What's not to like? And he's a left handed bat. Kuhn - same as Gallagher. Both guys, along with Marrero, are solidifying themselves this year. Hopefully, KW does the SMART thing and keep them. Rienzo/Doyle - Interesting develop and see what you have prospects. Would like to see also how Jacob Petricka continues to develop in the second half of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 What about Petrika? Have injuries limited him this year regarding his prospect status? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce_Blixton Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 QUOTE (OilCan @ Jun 18, 2011 -> 01:47 PM) Gallagher - the more he hits, he SHOULD be viewed at the very least as a viable bench option. I mean, the guy has hit at every level, and he has extra base power. What's not to like? And he's a left handed bat. I think he could replace Teahen without missing a beat, he has a great eye at the plate. I wonder if he could develop some power as he gets older like Jayson Werth did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 QUOTE (Bruce_Blixton @ Jun 18, 2011 -> 09:12 PM) I think he could replace Teahen without missing a beat, he has a great eye at the plate. I wonder if he could develop some power as he gets older like Jayson Werth did. I love Jim Gallagher, but his power will probably stay the same. Plus, he's nowhere near as large as Jayson Werth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 QUOTE (Ozzie Ball @ Jun 18, 2011 -> 04:35 PM) Not that you were comparing Kuhn to Boggs or anything, but Boggs had 337 BB/134 SO in 662 Minor League games (2,647 AB). His minor league numbers may not be "sexy", but he was the definition of an 80 contact hitter throughout his career, Majors and minors. Boggs was 24 when he got to the majors and played 104 games. When he was 25 he had 210 hits. not saying kuhn isn't a prospect, although he has never made the Sox list of top 30 prospects with Baseball America. But chances are he'll be a Graffanino type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 also intrigued by Brandon Short. Seems like a late-bloomer, although he definitely needs to improve his walk-rate -- just 16 in 294 plate appearances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 (edited) Only ones I follow (and high on) are Viciedo, Short, Reed, Buch, Reinzo and Thompson. (I just keep a lookout on guys like Dan Black because I've met him before, Gallagher cause he was my sleeper pick two years ago, Marrero cause his situation is a little bit similiar to 07-08 David Cook and Flowers' walk numbers) Oh, though not a prospect, but Shane Lindsay just for the laughs. Edited June 20, 2011 by SoxAce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jun 19, 2011 -> 11:20 PM) Only ones I follow (and high on) are Viciedo, Short, Reed, Buch, Reinzo and Thompson. (I just keep a lookout on guys like Dan Black because I've met him before, Gallagher cause he was my sleeper pick two years ago, Marrero cause his situation is a little bit similiar to 07-08 David Cook and Flowers' walk numbers) Oh, though not a prospect, but Shane Lindsay just for the laughs. When you have a WHIP higher than your ERA. You are either doing something really good, really bad, or a combination. His statline is an enigma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jun 19, 2011 -> 10:24 PM) When you have a WHIP higher than your ERA. You are either doing something really good, really bad, or a combination. His statline is an enigma. Some of the craziest peripherals ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Jun 19, 2011 -> 11:56 AM) Boggs was 24 when he got to the majors and played 104 games. When he was 25 he had 210 hits. not saying kuhn isn't a prospect, although he has never made the Sox list of top 30 prospects with Baseball America. But chances are he'll be a Graffanino type. Kuhn has a higher ceiling than that. I'd say Chone Figgins in his prime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 QUOTE (JPN366 @ Jun 20, 2011 -> 02:51 PM) Kuhn has a higher ceiling than that. I'd say Chone Figgins in his prime. thats very optimistic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jun 20, 2011 -> 10:43 PM) thats very optimistic That's the type of guy he is. People seem to think of Kuhn in a lesser way than they should. He's a .300 leadoff guy who can play 4, and maybe up to 6, positions. That was Figgins at his peak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 QUOTE (JPN366 @ Jun 20, 2011 -> 11:01 PM) That's the type of guy he is. People seem to think of Kuhn in a lesser way than they should. He's a .300 leadoff guy who can play 4, and maybe up to 6, positions. That was Figgins at his peak. Well that and 30+ stolen bases. Kuhn will never do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 QUOTE (danman31 @ Jun 20, 2011 -> 11:40 PM) Well that and 30+ stolen bases. Kuhn will never do that. I don't buy Kuhn's defense either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 QUOTE (danman31 @ Jun 20, 2011 -> 11:40 PM) Well that and 30+ stolen bases. Kuhn will never do that. True, but I think he can do the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jun 21, 2011 -> 12:23 AM) I don't buy Kuhn's defense either. Why? How much have you watched him play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (JPN366 @ Jun 21, 2011 -> 09:58 AM) Why? How much have you watched him play? Haven't watched him at all. I'm going off the opinion of professionals that do watch him though. Edited June 21, 2011 by DirtySox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jun 21, 2011 -> 01:36 PM) Haven't watched him at all. I'm going off the opinion of professionals that do watch him though. What have they said? Because he hardly makes any errors. Edited June 21, 2011 by JPN366 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 (edited) Don't regurgitate that "player without a position" thing. That doesn't mean he can't play defense, it just means he doesn't strictly profile at one position. Kuhn is a utility guy who should play everyday. He is far from a defensive liability at all. From watching him, I'd say he could handle CF and RF in addition to 3B, SS, 2B and LF. In his hitting prime, Chone Figgins didn't profile at one single position, he played 5 or 6 different positions regularly. A different one everyday. His bat was needed in the lineup and he gave the Angels flexibility. Edited June 22, 2011 by JPN366 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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