klaus kinski Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 They have now taken us to July 1 with "it will get better." It's not and it won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 (edited) And people questioned why I picked 2 as the over/under. SHM Edited June 30, 2011 by BigSqwert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiguy79 Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 QUOTE (mmmmmbeeer @ Jun 30, 2011 -> 02:46 PM) So it's KW's fault that only 2 players in this lineup have an OPS over .635? Really? Peavy is the only player in this lineup with a career OPS under .635 Only Vizquel has a career OPS lower than .700 Outside of Vizquel, Pierre and Beckham, everyone in this lineup has a career OPS higher than .730 And yet here we are in 2011 with a starting lineup performing this poorly....and you blame KW? How about we blame the guy in charge of making these guys perform up to their potential? It sure as hell isn't the GM. The GM's job is to create a roster that is strong on paper, and KW has done that...even today's lineup, based on career OPS, is not that bad of a lineup. Comparing career OPS is sort of useless when our players have obviously regressed...we bought high and are stuck with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 QUOTE (mmmmmbeeer @ Jun 30, 2011 -> 03:46 PM) So it's KW's fault that only 2 players in this lineup have an OPS over .635? Really? Peavy is the only player in this lineup with a career OPS under .635 Only Vizquel has a career OPS lower than .700 Outside of Vizquel, Pierre and Beckham, everyone in this lineup has a career OPS higher than .730 And yet here we are in 2011 with a starting lineup performing this poorly....and you blame KW? How about we blame the guy in charge of making these guys perform up to their potential? It sure as hell isn't the GM. The GM's job is to create a roster that is strong on paper, and KW has done that...even today's lineup, based on career OPS, is not that bad of a lineup. No, its not his fault he signed Dunn, in fact pretty much 95 percent of baseball people loved the move for us. The truth is, he is in one of the worst slumps I've seen this side of Paul Konerko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 30, 2011 -> 01:45 PM) Nope, swing yips, literally couldnt make contact with the ball. Went out to the range the next day, 200 balls, nothing further than 100 yards, HUGE chucks of grass. Took 4 days and about 1000 balls but I broke it down, simplified, and BANG, out of it. talk about a game that will screw with your mind and happiness. those breakthroughs feel good, huh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 QUOTE (klaus kinski @ Jun 30, 2011 -> 03:48 PM) They have now taken us to July 1 with "it will get better." It's not and it won't. Maybe the Sox should make their own "It gets better" commercial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 30, 2011 -> 08:48 PM) And people questioned why a picked 2 as the over/under. SHM We'll crush their bullpen, we've hit the heck out of the ball against them this series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Southwest Airlines should shoot a "Wanna Get Away?" commercial with Dunn. It'd be pretty funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 How can you bench your three best hitters today? AJ, Paulie, and Q riding the pine - ummmm... Ok Ozzie - You make de focking lineups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 QUOTE (klaus kinski @ Jun 30, 2011 -> 03:48 PM) They have now taken us to July 1 with "it will get better." It's not and it won't. Hawk acts like there is a magic switch there is none Hawk. This is the 2011 White Sox and it gets no better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiguy79 Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jun 30, 2011 -> 02:49 PM) Southwest Airlines should shoot a "Wanna Get Away?" commercial with Dunn. It'd be pretty funny. That would be awesome. Only, if the money he made doing the commercial went to payback Sox fans. THey should do one with Hendry and Dunn for the Cubs/Sox series. Edited June 30, 2011 by chiguy79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 30, 2011 -> 03:47 PM) No. Have a link to it? Just go to ESPN radio. He laid into KW. This isn't just Ozzie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 I have way more tolerance for KW because when you look at the pieces they should work. My biggest complaint about KW is that if hes the GM, he needs to demand Ozzie be fired. His opinion has to be that he gave Ozzie the keys to the car and Ozzie smashed the s*** out of it. I really believe that with a normal manager the Sox are above 500 playing much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 QUOTE (hi8is @ Jun 30, 2011 -> 03:50 PM) How can you bench your three best hitters today? AJ, Paulie, and Q riding the pine - ummmm... Ok Ozzie - You make de focking lineups. Don't question Ozzie. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmmmbeeer Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 QUOTE (chiguy79 @ Jun 30, 2011 -> 03:48 PM) Comparing career OPS is sort of useless when our players have obviously regressed...we bought high and are stuck with them. Exactly my point....they regress when they get here. So what causes them to regress, KW acquiring them or OG and Walk coaching them? I've never seen an acquisition cause a player to slump, but I have seen coaching cause a player to slump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jun 30, 2011 -> 03:49 PM) talk about a game that will screw with your mind and happiness. those breakthroughs feel good, huh Yes. I quit after 12 holes in my last round it got so bad, lost 15 balls and couldnt even hit an iron off a tee. It was f***ing unreal, and its happened before, the last time I threw out my entire set of clubs to start over. This time I got some advice on how to break the swing back down to simplify it and then build it back up and its worked so far (120 balls today). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Nice job by Peavy since escaping the 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 QUOTE (mmmmmbeeer @ Jun 30, 2011 -> 03:46 PM) So it's KW's fault that only 2 players in this lineup have an OPS over .635? Really? Peavy is the only player in this lineup with a career OPS under .635 Only Vizquel has a career OPS lower than .700 Outside of Vizquel, Pierre and Beckham, everyone in this lineup has a career OPS higher than .730 And yet here we are in 2011 with a starting lineup performing this poorly....and you blame KW? How about we blame the guy in charge of making these guys perform up to their potential? It sure as hell isn't the GM. The GM's job is to create a roster that is strong on paper, and KW has done that...even today's lineup, based on career OPS, is not that bad of a lineup. oh so its ozzies fault dunn sucks because he cant motivate him? please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 QUOTE (mmmmmbeeer @ Jun 30, 2011 -> 04:51 PM) Exactly my point....they regress when they get here. So what causes them to regress, KW acquiring them or OG and Walk coaching them? I've never seen an acquisition cause a player to slump, but I have seen coaching cause a player to slump. I can think of switching league/switching team acquisitions that suddenly made guys slump. Happens in NYC all the time it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 30, 2011 -> 03:51 PM) Nice job by Peavy since escaping the 3rd. He's been ok, minus that first inning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jun 30, 2011 -> 04:49 PM) Southwest Airlines should shoot a "Wanna Get Away?" commercial with Dunn. It'd be pretty funny. I'm mad at myself that that made me laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Jun 30, 2011 -> 03:52 PM) oh so its ozzies fault dunn sucks because he cant motivate him? please. How can you continue to defend Ozzie? I mean really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jun 30, 2011 -> 03:50 PM) I have way more tolerance for KW because when you look at the pieces they should work. My biggest complaint about KW is that if hes the GM, he needs to demand Ozzie be fired. His opinion has to be that he gave Ozzie the keys to the car and Ozzie smashed the s*** out of it. I really believe that with a normal manager the Sox are above 500 playing much better. If its the general consensus that this team has underachieved several years over his tenure, than why havent you fired him yet? If you continue to say in the press that the team "isnt hitting on all cylinders" at what point do you fire the guy in charge of said players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 QUOTE (hi8is @ Jun 30, 2011 -> 03:50 PM) How can you bench your three best hitters today? AJ, Paulie, and Q riding the pine - ummmm... Ok Ozzie - You make de focking lineups. Honestly, maybe Ozzie doesn't WANT this job anymore. I mean, this is just nuts. He clearly can't care too much about his job to rock this lineup today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 30, 2011 -> 08:52 PM) I can think of switching league/switching team acquisitions that suddenly made guys slump. Happens in NYC all the time it seems. Who's the last guy to slump as bad as Dunn has for half a season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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